| FORUMS > The Sin Bin > Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) |
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| Quote: Bullseye "And that’s why we have an insoluble problem. A GE won’t change a thing because parties would remain split and their respective policy on Brexit would dominate the election campaign and skew the whole thing. Brexit needs to be sorted first. If MPs can’t put aside political ambitions and agree on a cross party consensus along a customs union/Norway option then it could be another referendum with a less binary question.
What question you put and the options is another argument in itself and likely to get all the extremists on all sides crying foul. As I see it there is Hard Brexit (No deal), Soft Brexit (Norway) and Remain as options. Or if you want to respect the referendum result you could issue a choice between Hard Brexit (No deal) and Soft Brexit (Norway).
The trouble is that it could again be a very slim majority for an option that has enormous ramifications.
Anyone now think referendums aren’t always the best way of solving an issue? Special thanks must go to the right wing of the Tory Party for getting us here.'" |
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| Quote: Bullseye "Anyone now think referendums aren’t always the best way of solving an issue? Special thanks must go to the right wing of the Tory Party for getting us here.'"
And all the old, racist people that voted leave. |
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| Quote: MGarbutt1986 "And all the old, racist people that voted leave.'"
I’ve more of an axe to grind with those that thought a referendum would solve the issue “once and for all” and those who agitated for it since 1974. Looking at the characters involved they weren’t all old and/or racist. They were all Tories though. |
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| Quote: Bullseye "And that’s why we have an insoluble problem. A GE won’t change a thing because parties would remain split and their respective policy on Brexit would dominate the election campaign and skew the whole thing. Brexit needs to be sorted first. If MPs can’t put aside political ambitions and agree on a cross party consensus along a customs union/Norway option then it could be another referendum with a less binary question.
What question you put and the options is another argument in itself and likely to get all the extremists on all sides crying foul. As I see it there is Hard Brexit (No deal), Soft Brexit (Norway) and Remain as options. Or if you want to respect the referendum result you could issue a choice between Hard Brexit (No deal) and Soft Brexit (Norway).
The trouble is that it could again be a very slim majority for an option that has enormous ramifications.
Anyone now think referendums aren’t always the best way of solving an issue? Special thanks must go to the right wing of the Tory Party for getting us here.'"
Your right, I really want us to leave the EU, however, I don't think I could stand this embarrassment much longer, like you I don't know what a GE will achieve, until recently all Labour would say is that everything is on the table. I might be wrong but I think our only option now is another divisive referendum. I also agree its just what the question will be  |
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| Quote: MGarbutt1986 "And all the old, racist people that voted leave.'"
Tempted to quote Stewart Lee here - but I don't want to get banned.
You're not far wrong though - a lot of people voted leave because they were exercised about FoM - fuelled by lies and rhetoric, which convinced them that all the things that were wrong in their lives, were caused by immigration.
As Will Self said the other day in his real-time humiliation of Mark Francois, not everyone who voted leave were racists, but most racists probably voted to leave. |
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| Quote: bren2k "Tempted to quote Stewart Lee here - but I don't want to get banned.
You're not far wrong though - a lot of people voted leave because they were exercised about FoM - fuelled by lies and rhetoric, which convinced them that all the things that were wrong in their lives, were caused by immigration.
As Will Self said the other day in his real-time humiliation of Mark Francois, not everyone who voted leave were racists, but most racists probably voted to leave.'"
Can you PM me a link to the quote by Stewart Lee, always keen to learn.
The whole thing is a shambles, and everyone I speak to is bored of it, and doesn't believe much will change. |
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| Quote: MGarbutt1986 "Can you PM me a link to the quote by Stewart Lee, always keen to learn.'"
rlThisrl might help? |
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She is certainly up there with the worst. Certainly one of the most Corrupt self serving pms along with her party in general
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| Quote: bren2k "rlThisrl might help?'"
I only wanted bendy bananas but now we’ve got this chaotic inferno of hate.  |
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To be fair the stance that Brexit is what the people want and majorities are twisted a little, as it would be if it had been a slight win for remain. In realty 17.4m is roughly only a quarter of the population, meaning three quarters didn't vote to leave.
Anyhow I can see this becoming death by a 1000 cuts as we via into the endless saga of political Hokey Cokey.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "I only wanted bendy bananas but now we’ve got this chaotic inferno of hate. ![]()
Once I googled the idiot who is on the video, I didn't even watch it. As with bren2k, political bias and not reasoned thought.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "I only wanted bendy bananas but now we’ve got this chaotic inferno of hate. ![]()
"Ah well - never mind - at least the bananas are all bendy again - like they always fu**ing were."
Nailed it - I love Stewart Lee - he speaks eloquently for the metropolitan liberal elite.
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| Quote: MGarbutt1986 "Once I googled the idiot who is on the video, I didn't even watch it. As with bren2k, political bias and not reasoned thought.'"
You didn't Google it - I had to do it for you. |
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| Quote: bren2k ""Ah well - never mind - at least the bananas are all bendy again - like they always fu**ing were."
Nailed it - I love Stewart Lee - he speaks eloquently for the metropolitan liberal elite.'"
He speaks gibberish for the loony left. |
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| Quote: MGarbutt1986 "He speaks gibberish for the loony left.'"
I know - great isn't he? |
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