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| Listen. I voted remain. But despite what all the people in this thread think and what they post on here as fact, no one knows what will happen and it’s hilarious watching people write stuff on here like it’s fact. If they could predict with certainty, the stuff they put on here they would be very rich people
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| Quote: IR80 " seeing the way the EU (NOT EUROPE) is behaving makes me believe we are better off out of it. The EU (NOT EUROPE) are demanding fishing rights and the ECJ having a say, that isn't what the majority were expecting.
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The EU are demanding fishing rights because the fishing industry in EU countries fishes in those waters and so as their representatives in a trade negotiation they are demanding it.
Same as the US are demanding that the UK lowers its food standards, so that their agrifood companies can sell things in to the UK market that are currently not allowed.
This is what happens in trade negotiations. The UK will be demanding things from the EU as well - particularly around banking and financial services and access to EU markets there. Things will be traded off.
The interesting part about fishing rights for me isn't that the EU were demanding it, that was always going to be the case. It's whether the UK will use fishing as a concession to get something they want. If it comes to trading off the interests of fishermen v bankers, who will Boris prioritise?
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| If you look at the fishing industry, those catching want to extend the no fishing limit to 12 miles to keep all others out but those that buy and sell their fish want free access to the EU who buy the majority.
We also fish in French waters so I guess we will not be doing so after December.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "The EU are demanding fishing rights because the fishing industry in EU countries fishes in those waters and so as their representatives in a trade negotiation they are demanding it.
Same as the US are demanding that the UK lowers its food standards, so that their agrifood companies can sell things in to the UK market that are currently not allowed.
This is what happens in trade negotiations. The UK will be demanding things from the EU as well - particularly around banking and financial services and access to EU markets there. Things will be traded off.
The interesting part about fishing rights for me isn't that the EU were demanding it, that was always going to be the case. It's whether the UK will use fishing as a concession to get something they want. If it comes to trading off the interests of fishermen v bankers, who will Boris prioritise?'"
Fishing has always been a contentious subject.
As things were, the quotas would be abused by having owners of trawling fleets registering in the country where they stood to gain the most.
Where the fish are caught and where they are landed are two completely different things - it's far from straightforward.
As for ANY industry wanting special dispensation
Everything is now being tosses in to the negotiating pot and whilst we are sure to have some priorities and some red lines, ultimately, it's all about getting what is deemed the best overall deal but, necessarily, there will be winners and losers.
Mind you, the words uttered by the EU regarding the relative size of the UK vs the size of the EU does mean that we are David vs their Goliath.
Catapults at the ready
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| Quote: Steph Curry "Listen. I voted remain. But despite what all the people in this thread think and what they post on here as fact, no one knows what will happen and it’s hilarious watching people write stuff on here like it’s fact. If they could predict with certainty, the stuff they put on here they would be very rich people'"
Bet your glad you went with Stephen Curry instead of Kobe Bryant for your new nick
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| Happy Brexit Day fellow RL fannies
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| Quote: Cronus "Happy Brexit Day fellow RL fannies
Typical brexiteer.
Going off humming rule Britannia. Britannia rules the waves You must be sleeping beauty. Britain has not ruled the waves for 80years. Iranians seizing a British oil tanker. In Kipling’s day it would have meant an invasion and giving the fuzzy wuzzies a good seeing to . Now it is , ok we wilL give you your ship back if you give us ours.
Let’s see what happens in the next few years / months before you get carried away.
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Typical brexiteer.
Going off humming rule Britannia. Britannia rules the waves You must be sleeping beauty. Britain has not ruled the waves for 80years. Iranians seizing a British oil tanker. In Kipling’s day it would have meant an invasion and giving the fuzzy wuzzies a good seeing to . Now it is , ok we wilL give you your ship back if you give us ours.
Let’s see what happens in the next few years / months before you get carried away.'"
Didn't think I'd get a bite so quickly, but there's always one.
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| Happy Brexit Day Cronus.
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| Quote: Cronus "icon_lol.gif
Didn't think I'd get a bite so quickly, but there's always one.
What a wit. If you doubled it you would be a half wit.
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| Quote: Cronus "icon_lol.gif
Didn't think I'd get a bite so quickly, but there's always one.
happy Brexit DAY Cronus, I hope that today brings everything that you wanted / expected.
It feels like we've been cut adrift, albeit by the hand of one of our own.
Where we'll end up, nobody knows. However, today, everything is good - plenty of food and water and we hope to find the promised land soon- hopefully before supplies run out
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| The long road to freedom reaches a very important milestone at 11.00pm tonight.
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| Happy Xenophobe Day.
Party like it's Nineteen Thirty-Nine.
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| We will soon find out just how much the EU needs the UK. It has to be said that IF we manage to secure a full Free Trade Arrangement, without any form of contribution, our negotiators will indeed have done a fine job.
However, if we end up on WTO terms at the end of December, it's fair to say that we will have been "sold a pup" and an incontinent one at that.
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| What many refuse to accept, that it is not in our gift a free trade deal, it is entirely up to the EU. Why would they give us such a benefit because they do not want other countries to believe it is an advantage to leave.
The only plus is that I hope never to see the smug Farage and whichever party he is associated with just being a complete embarrassment waving his little union flag. He is now off to the USA to help another pathological liar Trump to seek re-election.
I did expect that the news would report yesterday that the USA representative confirmed that the US farmers would insist on their goods being included in any deal contrary to what our government indicated would be the case.
I hope it is a success because it will not be the old or wealthy that will suffer the most if it is not.
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