She can't, Liz will be watching American Pickers.

And who replaces her?

We are headed for a G.E, and the misery of a Labour Government I am afraid.

Labour are 8 points behind in the polls - even with this shambles of a PM - unreal

I think it matters little which party is in power, the general public ensure the country operates inspite of them. The only difference will be their own ideologies having this niche effects. A Labour government would be no more miserable then what have now. I have lived with both Labour and Tory tenures in my life and noticed little change between the two.

Just also seen May level some lip turn sleight on the House for rejecting her crappy deal, effectively saying because of their decision, the country is heading into disarray. Perhaps had she not run down the clock and looked to consult right at the very start of the process, she might have just found some middle ground.

I think the political correspondent Rob Watson summed it up nicely -

"Theresa May is in a profound crisis,the country is in a profound crisis, her governing Conservative Party is massively disfunctionally divided, Parliament is divided, the country is divided, business is despairing & we still don't know how Brexit ends, but apart from that everything's fine"

Anyhow, my question's this -

If Britain revoked Article Fifty, how long would they have to wait to invoke it once again?

Anyone?

IF we revoked article 50, and I don't know why I say "we", because what the majority of "we" wanted has been largely ignored, "we" would be stuck in Europe forever. (Which "I" would be quite happy about, but goes against what "we" voted for)

993 days of farce!

so, under WTO rules, cars from Europe go up £1500, beef goes up 52% etc etc etc, the leave campaign never told us any of this!

The problem is the referendum split the country but not along party lines. That means parties are going to struggle to sort it out as they’re always reluctant to meet in the middle to do a deal. Meeting in the middle is going to annoy people on both sides of the argument so much that the politicians are paralysed since they’re restricted by their own longer term ambitions. Leavers disagree on what it means to leave. Remainers are split into those who might go for a soft Brexit Norway option and those that want to forget the whole thing and stay in.

52/48 was always too close a result to settle this. In Australia they have referendums more often but in order to enact change the vote to change has to be about 75% IIRC. They should’ve done that with ours.

I'm pretty sure this government of the people have imposed far more draconian rules on trades union ballots than a mere majority.

Yeah, it’s noticeable that the Brexiteers talk in terms of the 17.4 million, which is legitimate and accurate, more than 52%, which is a majority but a narrow one. Obviously sufficient for Brexit, but not necessarily their preferred version of it.

I understand May’s instinct to try to firm up her base in the parliamentary Conservative party, having lost her majority. However, once the extent of the recalcitrance of the ERG became clear, the arithmetic became impossible for her. She chose holding that ship together rather building a cross-party consensus around a softer Brexit. In fairness, she might well have been chucked overboard if she’d tried the latter. But there was an element of personal pride in there as well, imo - in that she just couldn’t bring herself to ‘go crawling’ to Corbyn and Labour.

I've long argued that 50.1% is a majority, but only if they vote for what the people calling the vote want, apparently.

There are much more grown up ways to hold referenda, and they are used around the world, but we chose a politically illiterate binary option on one of the most significant political decision for several generations - it was always going to end badly, especially when, as someone else pointed out, the two sides were not aligned with party lines. I guess we have David Cameron and his advisers to thank for that - but as Danny Dyer so eloquently said, "Where is the geezer?"

I can't see May lasting until the end of the week - and in some ways, she could salvage a minor scrap of credibility by throwing her hands in the air and saying, "I tried - but the HoC wouldn't play ball." She'll then sail off into the sunset with Philip's arms deals £billions to scrape by on, and the Johnson's and Rees-Moggs will be left to face the ire of the electorate.

I want a GE - but I fail to see how even that could bridge the divide; there is no consensus for anything in Parliament other than Remain, but a tiny majority of those who voted will never accept that, because they won, and they want their prize - even if they don't know what the prize is, and it's actually a different prize for every Leave voter you talk to.

No, because we had the likes of Liam Fox stating that "the Brexit deal would be the easiest thing in human history".

Also, a couple of months before the referendum, that trusty ally Gove stated "the day after we vote leave, we hold all the cards & we can choose the path we want."

I must admit, I am torn, the majority voted leave, but didn't know what a shambles it would be, so maybe a second vote, with (as bren2k has said) a less binary set of options, might be needed.

And that’s why we have an insoluble problem. A GE won’t change a thing because parties would remain split and their respective policy on Brexit would dominate the election campaign and skew the whole thing. Brexit needs to be sorted first. If MPs can’t put aside political ambitions and agree on a cross party consensus along a customs union/Norway option then it could be another referendum with a less binary question.

What question you put and the options is another argument in itself and likely to get all the extremists on all sides crying foul. As I see it there is Hard Brexit (No deal), Soft Brexit (Norway) and Remain as options. Or if you want to respect the referendum result you could issue a choice between Hard Brexit (No deal) and Soft Brexit (Norway).

The trouble is that it could again be a very slim majority for an option that has enormous ramifications.

Anyone now think referendums aren’t always the best way of solving an issue? Special thanks must go to the right wing of the Tory Party for getting us here.