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| Quote: Big Graeme "I would have thought after the last time you'd avoid any mention of polls...'"
You mean the last time when I posted polls of thousands of pepole who agreed with my opinion and because you and one other said you didn't agree with them they suddenly all became irrelevant.
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| Quote: JerryChicken ""Thousands" ??? ![]()
Yes, one had twenty seven THOUSAND replies.
But I guess as the poll outcome doesn't fit with your opinions, it's irrelevant and only your opinion counts. 
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| Quote: Ajw71 "Yes, one had twenty seven THOUSAND replies.
But I guess as the poll outcome doesn't fit with your opinions, it's irrelevant and only your opinion counts. ![]()
One only had a couple of hundred too as I recall, yet you still attached equal importance.
What really matters of course is the context of the poll, a poll of audience members at this weeks Tory party conference would have resulted in a predicted 650 seat majority at the next election whereas a poll of six month old turkey chicks this week would have been unanimously in favour of abandoning christmas this year.
Any poll is irrelevant when it is biased in its selection and choice of question regardless of the size of its poll, the readers personal opinion has nothing to do with such careless polling.
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I think Ajw71 would like unskewedpolls.com/
When Romney was doing badly, the far right decided to create their own alternate reality where he was, in fact, miles ahead. All you needed to do was change (sorry "deskew"icon_wink.gif a few characteristics of the opinion polls and suddenly everything was going to be alright. "Deskewing" I guess has the effect of tweaking the samples so that the poll population was corrected to be more Republican (and therefore white, southern, male and elderly) than those biased liberal pollsters were projecting.
Suddenly, they were able to comfort themselves that everything was going to be alright. |
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I think Ajw71 would like unskewedpolls.com/
When Romney was doing badly, the far right decided to create their own alternate reality where he was, in fact, miles ahead. All you needed to do was change (sorry "deskew"icon_wink.gif a few characteristics of the opinion polls and suddenly everything was going to be alright. "Deskewing" I guess has the effect of tweaking the samples so that the poll population was corrected to be more Republican (and therefore white, southern, male and elderly) than those biased liberal pollsters were projecting.
Suddenly, they were able to comfort themselves that everything was going to be alright. | |
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| Quote: MjM "I think Ajw71 would like
No you just don't get it. It's a poll. Therefore it is incontrovertible evidence of anything you want to argue regardless of the question asked, the number of respondents, the demographics of the respondents or the weighting involved.
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| Quote: JerryChicken "One only had a couple of hundred too as I recall, yet you still attached equal importance.
What really matters of course is the context of the poll, a poll of audience members at this weeks Tory party conference would have resulted in a predicted 650 seat majority at the next election whereas a poll of six month old turkey chicks this week would have been unanimously in favour of abandoning christmas this year.
Any poll is irrelevant when it is biased in its selection and choice of question regardless of the size of its poll, the readers personal opinion has nothing to do with such careless polling.'"
Not but you laughed when I stated thousands, impyling that I had made it up. I had not and you were wrong. |
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| Quote: MjM "
When Romney was doing badly '"
So he's not doing badly anymore. Glad we agree.
I stated he was ahead in some polls last night - this was factually correct.
I'm sorry if these particular polls you don't agree with but others are entiled to an opinion as well y'know. Contrary to popular belief it's not just the likes of [iHim's[/i opinion that matters. |
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| Quote: Ajw71 "I'm sorry if these particular polls you don't agree with but others are entiled to an opinion as well y'know. Contrary to popular belief it's not just the likes of [iHim's[/i opinion that matters.'"
It's been explained to you several times by more than one poster, you are not that bloody thick. |
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| Quote: Ajw71 "So he's not doing badly anymore. Glad we agree. '" Things have picked up, no doubt - would have been hard not for them to given how badly it had been going. Let's see if the VP debate has much impact. Biden put in a strong performance but it's hard to read what the take-aways from that will be.
As a general point, however, selectively choosing polls which support your opinion when the consensus of similar polls do not or are inconclusive is either self-delusion or wilful deception.
Quote: Ajw71 "others are entiled to an opinion as well y'know. Contrary to popular belief it's not just the likes of [iHim's[/i opinion that matters.'" If any poster's opinion is bat crazy then that poster should not be surprised to find the opinion coming under some scrutiny. |
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| Quote: Ajw71 "Not but you laughed when I stated thousands, impyling that I had made it up. I had not and you were wrong.'"
I laugh at you constantly, it doesn't imply that you are lying, just that I find you funny. |
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| Quote: MjM "
As a general point, however, selectively choosing polls which support your opinion when the consensus of similar polls do not or are inconclusive is either self-delusion or wilful deception. '"
Where has anyone done this? I said 'some' polls have Romney in the lead. The very nature of the word 'some' indicates that some also do not have him in the lead. I didn't go into any further detail.
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If any poster's opinion is bat crazy then that poster should not be surprised to find the opinion coming under some scrutiny.'"
Right....which 'bat' (absoloutely despise that word) opinions are these? |
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Whilst watching the debate between Biden and Ryan I thought that I had seen Ryan before as a character on the Muppet Show.
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Seconds out, round 2 tonight.
The prez looks like he's gonna have to get his combinations going tonight after being on the ropes in round 1.
Hope he was doing the 'rope-a-dope' first time round and that he's gonna be throwing a bit more leather this evening.
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| For those who didn't watch, Romney, having alienated 47% of the US population dismissed as feckless, has now alienated the female population whose existence as fully functional humans he only discovered once he became governor and has since gathered binders full of those who, apparently, are believed to possibly be capable of something more than making dinner 
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