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Quote: SaintsFan "Yep, remarking that they were led by Methodist lay preachers rather than Trotskyites.'"


Tolpuddle martyrs 1834

Leon Trostsky born 1879. Would have been difficult for Trotskyites to have being involved with the Tolpuddle martyrs then.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Yep, remarking that they were led by Methodist lay preachers rather than Trotskyites.'"
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Did you only become aware of that today daft lad?

Two nicest bits of fanny in attendance were the bitches granddaughter and Cleggs Mrs.

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Quote: Durham Giant "Tolpuddle martyrs 1834

Leon Trostsky born 1879. Would have been difficult for Trotskyites to have being involved with the Tolpuddle martyrs then.'"

My bad. He did say proto-Trotskyites.

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Quote: WIZEB "Did you only become aware of that today daft lad?'"

Interesting. You assume I am male. Why is that?

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Quote: wigan_rlfc "
I mean no disrespect to the child's family but were they expecting the streets to be lined (10 deep in parts), protests, a military escort, the attendance of the Queen and Duke, The PM and cabinet, the leader of the opposition and various foriegn leaders and dignitaries? The security for this will naturally cost a lot of money.

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No, the woman was asked if she agreed with the cost of what was by any other description a state funeral and whether or not she thought the public should pick up the tab for what many thought was unnecessary, including many MPs when a funeral in St Pauls without the rest of the ceremony would have met with almost total agreement - her answer was that it was difficult for her to be objective to the question of state funding of funerals when her experience had been so bad, then she told her story.

You take it on face value, the woman told her tale, she was paid £56 from the social fund to bury her child because her family were said to have savings that could be used instead of public funds - you can see the symmetry can't you ?
Its a given that Prime Ministers have funerals paid for by the state and they are often in fine churches and often attract a different level of security requirement depending on the guests - this one took it to a different level though and could easily have been cut back if only to comply with her own wishes.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Interesting. You assume I am male. Why is that?'"


Why?
Aren't you quite sure yourself dear?

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Quote: WIZEB "Why?
Aren't you quite sure yourself dear?'"

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If you tell me whether you think Paul Wellens is sexually attractive I'll be able to assess your gender?

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Quote: JerryChicken "Sadly you know I don't think there would be, its a matter of fact that the vast majority of parents simply don't believe that their children will die and don't insure them - they will insure themselves to make sure their spouse and children are ok, but they don't insure their children alone, I never did, never crossed my mind to do so and I don't ever recall an insurance policy aimed at protecting parents from the cost of a childs funeral.'"


I'm not absolutely sure (and what little insurance knowledge I ever had is way out-of-date) but I don't think you can insure children against death.

Years ago I was told that this was a response to the quaint old Victorian practice of insuring kids and then murdering them to claim the 'bounty'.

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Quote: LeedsBornWelshRoots "I'm not absolutely sure (and what little insurance knowledge I ever had is way out-of-date) but I don't think you can insure children against death.

Years ago I was told that this was a response to the quaint old Victorian practice of insuring kids and then murdering them to claim the 'bounty'.'"


I believe that they can be insured to cover funeral costs etc but the insurance industry perceive children to be of little value, hence the derisory amounts paid on suing any one/organisation for the death of a child

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Quote: SaintsFan "No. I don't read the Telegraph either. I read The Times (but I don't pay a quid to read their online version). If they come up with 300 as well then all that will tell me is that they have all got their information from the same source. I very much doubt correspondents from each paper went up to the group and counted them. There certainly didn't look like 300 when the Sky cameras were there.

But according to the leftie media, and I include the BBC in that, there was going to be loads of trouble at the funeral today, that's if anyone actually turned up (since obviously everyone hated Thatcher too much to bother turning up).

As it happened, apart from a couple of boos all I heard on TV was lots of applause in some places and respectful silence in others, and then some pretty desperate attempts by Sky and the BBC after the funeral to hunt out some protesters. Of those, the only comments I heard were about the cost of the funeral. Hardly a revolution on the streets.'"


So, it's a no then, unless you read it in[i The Times[/i or saw it on Sky/BBC.
And because you only heard a couple of boos that means that the protestors didn't turn up.
And because objectors didn't turn up they are all mouth and no action
OK.
It does sound like you are disappointed to have lost an opportunity for outrage.

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