Boom

See my previous posts about comparing a rubber dinghy to an oil-tanker.

Remember George Osbourne threatening to hold an emergency budget straight after the referendum if we voted to leave, where he would have to further and drastically cut spending and increase taxes. Thats one of you rubber dinghies is assume.

If you think the volume of deceit spouted by quitlings is REMOTELY equivalent to the things remainers have said inaccurately, then I have nothing at all left to say. It's futile.

I think its better if you don't, I chose to ignore it when you posted it originally. At the time he hadn't quit, believe me mate it was a real threat.

So the Leave campaign has been investigated and found guilty by the Electoral Commission - and is now the subject of an NCA investigation, with links to Russia, Steve Bannon, fraud and corruption - and some people think that's equivalent to predicting that the economy would suffer if we left the EU?

Can I just correct you on one point please, it was no prediction, he was going to do have to do it if we voted to leave, I'm not saying some people think that Osbourne's threat was equivalent, I'M saying for me working for the NHS with all the cuts previously it was worse.

With regards to the Leave EU being found guilty by the Electoral Commission on their spending they should quite rightly be fined, With regards to the other allegations I'm not going to comment at the moment because they are just that allegations.

To be strictly accurate, a Leave campaign rather than the Leave campaign. Vote.EU, rather than the Vote Leave campaign.

So, do we think the further reassurances will be enough? A lot of minds have to be changed, but while it’d be hard to say the EU have blinked, they’ve maybe uncrossed their arms and turned their palms outwards. I think the ERG could vote for it without losing face, but it’ll really come down to whether they ever really wanted to.

Edit - looks like the AG’s advice might have rained on the parade. Surprised by that, I thought she’d get him onside.

If the objection these people had before were about legally binding amendments, I can't see how 'reassurances' could change that stance; who would sign a contract containing clauses they fundamentally disagreed with, if the other party gave 'reassurances' that they'd never be enacted?

The whole thing is a fudge - Mrs May has been characteristically single minded from the outset, and her stupid red lines have alienated pretty much everyone, such that she suffered the biggest defeat in parliamentary history, on a flagship piece of government business. I predict a delay to Article 50, followed by further attempts to polish the same old turd, then a resignation.

So the DUP haven't formally rejected the new assurances as I write this but appear to have privately revealed that they do not see how the party can support the deal following Cox legal advice. No senior ERG comments yet but Andrew Bridgen of the ERG has stated that he believes nothing has changed. Given that ERG and other quitlings were waiting for DUP opinion, then can we can say with some certainty that the deal will be defeated tonight? That being the case, you'd have to assume that tomorrow we will see a no deal brexit also defeated.

Thereafter it becomes more uncertain but you'd think we have to immediately seek an extension to Article 50. Who knows to what end.

Deal rejected tonight
No Deal Rejected tomorrow
Article 50 extension requested
EU names it's price
Second Referendum
People Vote to Remain

May is happy, and quits.


Noel Edmonds becomes Prime Minister a he's the only person who can manage Deal or No Deal

Well that's not the response I was expecting I'll give you that.

What, the Noel Edmonds bit?

I loved the quote from one of the guests on 5 live this morning, likening EU membership to "Hotel California" where, "you can check out but never leave". Referring to the UK still having to adhere to most of the laws and regulations of the EU, even if we are "OUT", it made me chuckle.
Cant remember the guys name other than he was one of Thatcher's negotiators and his most interesting comment was a swipe at Mrs May, when he said that Thatcher would not have triggered article 50 until she was certain of what she wanted and equally certain of what could be achieved, something that Mrs May has failed on both counts.
Also, he wasn't over complimentary of our negotiators, which becomes more of a worry if we ever move on and start talking about the future trade deal, not only with the EU but, to the wider world. Something that we have been constantly reminded, by Brexitiers, will be the making (saving) of The UK.