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Quote: JONNYGIANT "Until they move away from the hard left ,ie get shot of Momentum they will remain a spent force'"


I assume you're aware that for political equilibrium, there will also be a hard right.

So, I wonder where they are? Which party do they migrate towards - and what damage have they done to the UK in recent years?

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Quote: silver2 "I assume you're aware that for political equilibrium, there will also be a hard right.

So, I wonder where they are? Which party do they migrate towards - and what damage have they done to the UK in recent years?'"

I'm talking purely about the Labour party ,your kind of socialism has been dead in this country since the late seventies
and quite rightly you know been beholden to the unions, we could never be a Norway type of a socialist country unfortunately

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We could have been had we used our oil wealth the same way they did.

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Quote: Jack Burton "We could have been had we used our oil wealth the same way they did.'"

Not with militant unions mate, always wanting more

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Or the businesses wanting to give less or are you naive enough to believe that this government is not going to water down employment rights. The unions are actually probably more democratic and the reason many don’t like them is because they cannot be bullied unlike one individual worker.
I have seen where because of those that are part of a union negotiating better conditions and then people like you who like to criticise are happy to accept the benefits despite not contributing.
It’s a pity their pay awards are not handled the same way that those of business leaders are.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Or the businesses wanting to give less or are you naive enough to believe that this government is not going to water down employment rights. The unions are actually probably more democratic and the reason many don’t like them is because they cannot be bullied unlike one individual worker.
I have seen where because of those that are part of a union negotiating better conditions and then people like you who like to criticise are happy to accept the benefits despite not contributing.
It’s a pity their pay awards are not handled the same way that those of business leaders are.'"


Like the opposite of Brexit, where something is voted in and we all take a hit. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Or the businesses wanting to give less or are you naive enough to believe that this government is not going to water down employment rights. The unions are actually probably more democratic and the reason many don’t like them is because they cannot be bullied unlike one individual worker.
I have seen where because of those that are part of a union negotiating better conditions and then people like you who like to criticise are happy to accept the benefits despite not contributing.
It’s a pity their pay awards are not handled the same way that those of business leaders are.'"

Just remind me about Len Mccluskey,s pay
And Arthur Scargills millions ,and what evidence have you got about the government watering down rights of the worker's rights, that's right none ,explain about democracy in unite please icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Or the businesses wanting to give less or are you naive enough to believe that this government is not going to water down employment rights. The unions are actually probably more democratic and the reason many don’t like them is because they cannot be bullied unlike one individual worker.
I have seen where because of those that are part of a union negotiating better conditions and then people like you who like to criticise are happy to accept the benefits despite not contributing.
It’s a pity their pay awards are not handled the same way that those of business leaders are.'"

Just remind me about Len Mccluskey,s pay
And Arthur Scargills millions ,and what evidence have you got about the government watering down rights of the worker's , that's right none ,explain about democracy in unite please icon_lol.gif
We didn't do as Scargill said do da do da ,is a song Forest fans will be singing at Barnsley on Saturday ,after the usual scab chants by the tykes c020.gif

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That would explain a lot about you because it was the Nottinghamshire miners who believed Thatcher and became her enablers, how did that end up. How many pits survived in the Nottinghamshire area and what happened to the union they started with the governments help. They were sold down the river for believing she actually cared.
I would ask why were the government so insistent on not putting current EU employment law into U.K. law like they said they would. If you think it is to make them stronger then you are more a fool than I already think you are.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Like the opposite of Brexit, where something is voted in and we all take a hit. Can't work out whose the ventriloquist and whose the dummy in you two.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "That would explain a lot about you because it was the Nottinghamshire miners who believed Thatcher and became her enablers, how did that end up. How many pits survived in the Nottinghamshire area and what happened to the union they started with the governments help. They were sold down the river for believing she actually cared.
I would ask why were the government so insistent on not putting current EU employment law into U.K. law like they said they would. If you think it is to make them stronger then you are more a fool than I already think you are.'"

It was the idiot that is Scargill that enabled Maggie
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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "That would explain a lot about you because it was the Nottinghamshire miners who believed Thatcher and became her enablers, how did that end up. How many pits survived in the Nottinghamshire area and what happened to the union they started with the governments help. They were sold down the river for believing she actually cared.
I would ask why were the government so insistent on not putting current EU employment law into U.K. law like they said they would. If you think it is to make them stronger then you are more a fool than I already think you are.'"

None of the pits survived

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Quote: chissitt "Can't work out whose the ventriloquist and whose the dummy in you two.'"


Maybe you need to look in the mirror for the answer icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Maybe you need to look in the mirror for the answer Not sure how you work that out squire, if your looking for work they need a good double act at a circus down in Brighton, one of the clowns called Starmer brought the house down when he said we need to get our house in order for the next election, even you and your mate couldn't follow that.

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Quote: chissitt "Not sure how you work that out squire, if your looking for work they need a good double act at a circus down in Brighton, one of the clowns called Starmer brought the house down when he said we need to get our house in order for the next election, even you and your mate couldn't follow that.'"


Since Cilla Black passed away, they have been looking for a new matchmaker, you should apply.
Myself and Scarlett may share some of the same political views but, disappointingly for you, we dont know each other.
I know that you have some kind of unhealthy obsession with his private life but, bloody hell, this is becoming a little tiresome. Dont you think.

Enjoy your moment. Brexit is "done" and Boris is "in charge", what more could you possibly wish for icon_surprised.gifops:

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