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Quote: wire quin "I was speaking to some of the traffic management guys(Put out cones, signs etc) on the M25 amongst other roads in London. I said what are the dangers to you-Answer-the Africans on the road- That was there honest answer.'"


They sound like right pricks.

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Quote: wire quin "I was speaking to some of the traffic management guys(Put out cones, signs etc) on the M25 amongst other roads in London. I said what are the dangers to you-Answer-the Africans on the road- That was there honest answer.'"


Had the M25 morphed into the African Veldt?

What were the police doing, allowing these renegade bands of Africans roam free among the country's busiest motorway?

Were they white, coloured or black African?

How did they know they were African?

Did you not question any of this or do you only converse with people who have similar views to your own?

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Superb, sexism and now racism it's bigot bingo in here!

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I've posted this before now: one of my bosses is Indian, and he openly states that in his opinion, Indians and Pakistanis, and other overseas drivers, are the worst drivers in the UK.

His reasoning is that the driving culture over there is completely different - rules and laws are more of a weak guideline and driver are less disciplined, more foolhardy, less generous, and often take risks. I've driven in many countries and have found that to be true in several.

Any reason why drivers from African countries (and others) don't apply to this? I know my driving is educated and tailored to British laws and British road culture, which is actually very disciplined and regimented, but someone from overseas wouldn't know any of that and a driving culture from say, Mogadishu or Mumbai or Cairo, could be disruptive and possibly dangerous on British roads amongst British drivers.

Frankly, if you think a driver from, say, Eritrea, would adapt to British roads immediately and wouldn't possibly be more of a risk that a home-grown road-educated driver, you're a bit daft.

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Quote: Horatio Yed ".. If no white guy or woman has ever run under 10 seconds is that racist and sexist? ..'"

No, it's just bollox. JFG Lemaitre and Woronin, and the women's world record is 10.49 by FloJo. She is out on her own, and the next fastest ever was 10.64 but there are 2 white women in the Top 10 with 10.76 and 10.77.

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Quote: Horatio Yed "... but woman's awareness of their whole surroundings is frankly shocking..'"


That's an amazing punt. I've done some decades on the road and see no evidence for such a breathtaking gratuitous generalisation. I have not experienced any way of detecting what any other human's awareness of their whole surroundings is. Have you? How is that done, then?

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woman's world record, is that under 10 secs, it looks over to me?

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Quote: Horatio Yed "woman's world record, is that under 10 secs, it looks over to me?'"

What are you talking about? Have you lost the plot?

You saidIf no white guy or woman has ever run under 10 seconds is that racist and sexist? '"


It's bollox in the case of white guys as you imply only black men have run sub10, but in fact white men have also run under 10 seconds.

And it's bollox in the case of white women as you imply a black woman has run sub-10 but in fact no black woman has done it either.

HTH

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rlWould you be happy to drive a largely automated, "crash proof" carrl that will override your control inputs if it disagrees with your choices?

Many pilots, for example, already have this in their aircraft.

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Surely it's all Sam Tomkins fault. Him or the French.

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If you look at the post codes with the largest instances of un-insured vehicles the demographic is usually dominated by immigrants and siblings born out of immigrants.

Just maybe this complete disregard for the law also manifests itselfs into driving technique? two of the top four are in Bradford a city with a significant asian and eastern european population. Anyone who has driven down Leeds road in Bradford on a regular basis will experience some of the worst abuses of driving etiquette you will ever see.

I trust the facts will counter the usual "rasict" rubbish you read on here whenever you dare to suggest all is not quite above board with some sections of the population

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "rlWould you be happy to drive a largely automated, "crash proof" carrl that will override your control inputs if it disagrees with your choices?

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Yes, in fact with anti-lock brakes and traction control we already do to an extent.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "If you look at the post codes with the largest instances of un-insured vehicles the demographic is usually dominated by immigrants and siblings born out of immigrants.

Just maybe this complete disregard for the law also manifests itselfs into driving technique? two of the top four are in Bradford a city with a significant asian and eastern european population. Anyone who has driven down Leeds road in Bradford on a regular basis will experience some of the worst abuses of driving etiquette you will ever see.

I trust the facts will counter the usual "rasict" rubbish you read on here whenever you dare to suggest all is not quite above board with some sections of the population'"


Not at all, its a recognised fact and one which the police advertise widely on TV with occasional purges on insurance checks in that area, I just hope that they are checking constantly for untaxed/uninsured vehicles (some of very high value) in those areas but the fact that they make a song and dance about when they do it suggests that most of the time they don't bother.

I agree about driving down Leeds Road too, its a free for all when its busy and you may as well ignore any road markings.

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OTOH Leeds Road is in many ways a bastion of old-fashioned, traditional values. There, people still have time to stop for a chat. Granted, they may be in cars coming from opposite directions, and it may be the middle of the road blocking everyone else, but doesn't it make a nice change from the normal hustle, bustle and rush?

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Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
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Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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