Its all about expectation, isnt it but, you know that.
And, if we're measuring result vs expectation, why is Mrs May still in charge ?

Many, including Mrs May, thought that Corbyn would be obliterated in the election but his stock rose sharply.
May on the other hand went from demanding a landslide victory, to strengthen her Brexit negotiating hand and she came away with sweet FA.
You can poke as much fun as you like at Corbyn and his supporters but, they are, by far, the happiest with the election result.
Remember, all their planning was for 2020 and yet they goy mighty close in 2017

Cant disagree with this although, it's a good job that some of our politicians are fighting for people who have very little.
Mrs May, despite all of her hot air (we're getting used to that now), really doesn't give a damn about those in need or the "jams".
It made a decent line in her various spoutings of hot air, yet, her actions have been somewhat different to the spoken word.

She is happy to tell the public sector workers, who have recently gone above and beyond their duty, that 1% is plenty and to give them very little hope of any increase in their salaries.
It must really make them feel good when she praises their actions after telling them how little they are worth.

I've no problem with anyone championing the cause of those who have least, no matter where they have come from.

I'm sure that we would love to have a working class hero running the country but, that will never happen.

One of the main reasons I voted Conservatives was from a purely selfish commercial point of view as Labour promised to increase Corporation tax drastically.

I am interested to understand what the reasons people voted Labour for was. Not including Austerity and Brexit, what other reasons did people vote for Labour?

There appears to be a notion that salary increases should be a given and that that is the norm in the private sector. That is far from the case - I would suggest there are plenty of people working in the private sector that would have loved to have had a 1% increase compounded for 7 years. The notion that the public sector is worse off than all the workers in the private sector is a fallacy propagated by the likes of Corbyn.

What is the civil service offering in increased productivity for its annual salary increases?

Increases in pay should be self funding otherwise you are in the departure lounge of oblivion.

So maybe NHS staff are due a bigger pay rise than 1%? theconversation.com/nhs-outpaces ... ains-53899

So maybe NHS staff are due a bigger pay rise than 1%? theconversation.com/nhs-outpaces ... ains-53899

I agree but, I think you will find that regardless of "productivity" improving, within the sector, they are still being capped at 1%.

Although, many accuse Labour of solving problems, by throwing money around, without thought AND there are some eye watering salaries within local government, with council leaders getting paid more than the PM, which is clearly wrong.
This isn't what we are talking about here.

I'm trying to say that we cannot have staff, with wage increases CAPPED at 1% (this doesn't mean its and automatic increase) and yet you, like T.May,still believe this to be justified.

Fair society ?, I dont think so.

So are you saying everyone should be getting 1% regardless of what sector they work in - I'm struggling with your fair society - its fair public sector should be guaranteed - let's face it if its there the unions will ensure its taken - but not the private sector who have no guarantees.

That doesn't seem fair - neither did the huge increase the MPs awarded themselves didn't see the likes of Corbyn and McDonald refusing to take it!! So much for inequality

Next you will asking for a prices and incomes policy

For me i voted for a change in ethos to our society. I've no problem with having to tighten my belt, as long as those making the rules at least make a pretense that they are tightening too.

Also, I feel that Corbyn is pretty straight talking and his core beliefs are consistent with his voting record. He seems to actually be a decent human being unlike any PM in my lifetime.

I also think Labour are far more likely to invest in the north once we lose our funding from the european social fund

At least you've looked at it - and of course you're perfectly entitled to refute it, as many people in the comments section do; the point of course, is that there is plenty of conflicting information out there and it's risky to rely only on what bounces back at you in your own echo chamber.



Sorry, but I have no idea what you mean, or what relevant it has?

If that is what the government can afford then yes it is - why should this be any different from a commercial enterprise which incidentally is actual funding the increase.

Is it OK to award pay increases if productivity drops - a simple yes or no to both questions will do nicely

It would appear Mrs May has learned nothing - why is she so afraid of engaging with other humans on a human level?

These are people who have lost everything including - in some cases - family members why is she so afraid of getting some well deserved flack!!

Time the Tories discarded this robot for someone who has empathy with and can engage with fellow humans

She's completely devoid of any social skills and looks thoroughly panicked when put in a position of having to engage with anyone other than pre-approved Tory stooges. Everything from her facial expressions to her body language is just plain awkward.

The best description I've seen of her so far is 'a baby giraffe who's been dressed at Oxfam'.

Doesn't empathy go against the whole Tory ideology?