Not as much as Blair and Brown. I hope they shuffle off this mortal coil on the same day.... My birthday... 2 celebrations in one

HS2 only serves one purpose, to make Birmingham London's biggest commuter city. The money will run out once that has been achieved.

The only thing I'd trust the current shower of Tories to do, where levellling in the North is concerned, involves bulldozers. JCB ones, probably.

You still using your tax avoiding umbrella scheme ,typical socialist do as i say ,not as i do

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Anyone else see Priti Patel make Diane Abbott look like Carol Vorderman tonight?

Interesting that this morning on Andrew Marr, Sir Jeremy Farrar, Head of the Wellcome Trust and a Govt and WHO adviser said that mass testing and tracking down and isolation of infected individuals and their contacts was the way to go to reduce the number of cases and that finding effective medication that is allready on the market would be the best treatment in the short term as production of a vaccine would take much longer.

You have to question the decisions of Govt ministers. Advisers are there to advise but Govt ministers don't necessarily need to follow that advice. Furthermore, I would guess that the advisers gave several scenarios ranging from mass testing with a total lockdown to just leaving the pandemic to run its course without intervention. I guess that the government then balanced deaths vs economy prior to making their decisions.

What has become apparent is that globalisation has left us without the capability to mass produce cheap items of PPE as this is now done mainly in China and that the Govt had no effective emergency plan due to running down the NHS budget , public health budget, privatisation/abolition of Govt agencies and not keeping adequate emergency stocks of PPE.

Hopefully this will see increased funding for the NHS in the future and more manufacturing jobs kept in the UK rather than increasing globalisation that has seen these manufacturing jobs move to China with its cheap labour and lack of workers/human rights.

On the subject of government advisors, it was clear from the start that, Boris Johnson chose to flank himself with 2 health experts, so that he couldn't be blamed if things didn't go to plan.
Quite amazing that "we will go with the science" on this one but, on EVERY other aspect of government, they do as they please.
The scientists and experts on climate change, still remain largely ignored and if they are correct, the effects of the world heating up could be equally as catastrophic, albeit, not necessarily in the UK.

The UK is on course to suffer the highest number of deaths in Europe, despite Germany and France having larger populations, Germany seemingly getting through this rather better than the UK.

Lets see how it all unfolds and hope that the peak is getting very close and that at some point in the next few weeks, the light at the end of the tunnel will get a little brighter.

Out of curiosity have you ever agreed with or offered praise for anything the conservatives 'do' ?

The stark contrast that hits me right between the eyes is the diametrically opposed ridiculous situation with the tories in that after 10 years now there is no PPE on the NHS shelves, but yet we have stockpiles, standby supplies, reserve supplies of useless guns, bullets, missiles, bombs, all sat on shelves doing nothing.

And the even more ridiculous situation is that when all these armaments become out of use date, they are re-stockpiled without hesitation

But NHS service PPE? Typical tories

With Boris Johnson acclaiming the NHS now, it isn’t going to go down very well with the ERG and the right wing 1922 committee.

The knives will have been made in China

What will they do with the two specifically named nurses coming from New Zealand and Portugal. I bet Farage is disgusted that they could not find Nurses from the U.K. after all we don’t need these workers from outside the U.K.anymore.
We have and we will always needs workers from the EU but by the time Priti Patel gets off her box the government’s immigration policy will be passed and home they go, unless of course they have sadly died protecting our family members.

So if they don't die they get sent home?

Wasn't Nige married to a foreigner?

He was and strangely his two children have dual nationality U.K. and German. This unfortunately does not detract from the fact he hates everything EU related with the exception of women in his personal life.