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| Quote: The Devil's Advocate "I just hope when the right wing ultra's reach Brexit Nirvana their next mission is to bring back the death penalty'"
That may not be as fanciful as I suspect you intended it to be - Priti Patel, disgraced and sacked from her previous ministerial post for conducting back-channel, secret diplomacy with a foreign power, is on record as supporting the return of the death penalty; she is now our Home Secretary - one of the highest offices in the land.
As I've said before - get me out of here.
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| Quote: bren2k "That may not be as fanciful as I suspect you intended it to be - Priti Patel, disgraced and sacked from her previous ministerial post for conducting back-channel, secret diplomacy with a foreign power, is on record as supporting the return of the death penalty; she is now our Home Secretary - one of the highest offices in the land.
As I've said before - get me out of here.'"
Ah yes, old Priti, I presume you're referring to the aid money for the Israeli army, I didn't like to mention it in case it was anti-Semitic.
I'm surprised they haven't roped Francois in while they're at it, might as well go the whole hog.
Quote: bren2k "Wow. Just wow. The more I hear from the left wing ultras on here makes me more determined to stay just right of centre.'"
So, as a "just right of centre" kind of guy, would you vote for the re-introduction of Capital punishment?
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| Quote: The Devil's Advocate "
So, as a "just right of centre" kind of guy, would you vote for the re-introduction of Capital punishment?'"
This should be interesting. Where is my popcorn.
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| Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Ah yes, old Priti, I presume you're referring to the aid money for the Israeli army, I didn't like to mention it in case it was anti-Semitic.
I'm surprised they haven't roped Francois in while they're at it, might as well go the whole hog.
So, as a "just right of centre" kind of guy, would you vote for the re-introduction of Capital punishment?'"
No
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| With Boris and his new cabinet trying to push "no deal" as their preferred option, just how far will the pound slide before we se an interest rate rise.
Thins will definitely be better (for some) when we are out of the EU.
With Parliament in recess until the beginning of September, is it actually possible to renegotiate the withdrawal agreement (assuming we can persuade the EU to change their minds).
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "With Boris and his new cabinet trying to push "no deal" as their preferred option, just how far will the pound slide before we se an interest rate rise.
Thins will definitely be better (for some) when we are out of the EU.
With Parliament in recess until the beginning of September, is it actually possible to renegotiate the withdrawal agreement (assuming we can persuade the EU to change their minds).'"
Can parliament not be called back ??
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| Quote: ColD "Can parliament not be called back ??'"
Parliament needs to be sitting to approve any deal. However, the government could move forward with negotiating one during the recess (I assume), if they were thus inclined; currently it seems they are not.
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| It seem that Boris is back peddling already ?
After speaking with the Irish PM, he is now talking about a 2 year transition. How does this fit with a "no deal" exit.
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| Not so much back=pedalling as not having a bike. Sure he is obliged to put on a brave face and a show having got Head Boy, but really, let's be serious, what can he actually do? We will basically waste the entire "extension" as time will be almost up when PArliament is back sitting without anything much at all having been done; EU has been adamant the only deal in town is St. Theresa's; they think he won't hard Brexit, he says he will, but other than a major climbdown by EU saying OK Boris, come and talk, literally, what else can he do?
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| Cue the spaghetti western music. Boris & the EU with pop guns ,shots of the calendar ticking down to 31st October. Whose trigger finger will itch most ,who will blink first ?
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Not so much back
He may have his all new cabinet singing from the same hymn sheet but, the words havent changed.
Having said that, there are murmurings from the EU that they dont think that we will go for a no deal. Therefore, it's yet another game of who blinks first.
There will be moans and groans aplenty as the deadline gets ever closer and in a cruel twist of irony, perhaps Jezza will help Boris by ensuring that "no deal" isn't possible and we can get back to the two main parties blaming each other for the impasse.
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| What does Boris actually want from the EU, what terms & conditions? It would be good to be clear.
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| Quote: tigertot "What does Boris actually want from the EU, what terms & conditions? It would be good to be clear.'"
My best guess is May’s deal with discussions about how to solve the Irish border conundrum moved into trade deal negotiations. Leaving my guardianista bubble for a few minutes, I watched a pro-Farage YouTube video in which this option was presented as a betrayal of Brexit and a ‘surrender’.
Johnson is being sufficiently vague and aggressive about it that I assume he’d be almost as happy with ‘no’ as he would be with the EU conceding this... as long as they take the blame of Brexit man and woman. However, the lad is often vague (had to laugh at him promising ‘interventions’ to protect Welsh farming the other day) and aggressive, so maybe he thinks he is being diplomatic?
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| Quote: tigertot "What does Boris actually want from the EU, what terms & conditions? It would be good to be clear.'"
A free trade deal and a solution to the Irish backstop, oh yeah and while he's at it, he could ask about not handing over the £39bn that we owe.
After 10+ years of austerity, it now seems that Boris has found the mystical money tree and is making promises aplenty, costing eye watering amounts of public money to try and appease the populous and "smoot" the way to a no deal Brexit, which should lay the ground nicely for the recession that we are heading towards.
Is "the promised land" really going to be any better ?
For the average member of public, the only noticeable difference will be higher prices and a possible return of duty free when travelling in Europe.
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| So another £2 Billion has been allocated to a no deal Brexit taking the total fund to £4.2 Billion. This was never mentioned before the vote, we were told we’d leave with a deal which would benefit the economy meaning we could fund the nhs properly.
Instead Nurses are told there is no magic money tree for their funding, schools budgets have been cut to the bone with no increase in sight, but we will spend Billions on this no deal Brexit which was never supposed to be on the table.
Parliament needs to block no deal Brexit, we need to protest in the streets of London (outside London would go unnoticed). Alexander Boris De Pleffel Johnson has no right to force through a no deal Brexit, this was not voted for in the referendum.
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