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Quote: El Barbudo "Not the point.
The IRA is much younger than Catholicism, Al Quaeda is much younger than Islam.'"

The IRA and Al Quaeda are not religions, they are terrorist groups.

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I am waiting on the immigration status of the 2 suspects. And how much they and their families are claiming in benefits icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: SaintsFan "The IRA and Al Quaeda are not religions, they are terrorist groups.'"

The point is that the actions of the IRA didn't cause people to attack Catholic churches, so why should the actions of Al Qaeda cause people to attack mosques?

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Quote: SaintsFan "I think you need to take your patronising tone and stick it up your backside, actually ...'"


Irony alert.

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Quote: Chris28 "I don't recall Catholic churches being attacked when the IRA were setting bombs off in London/Warrington etc. Maybe this lot have got the wrong end of the stick'"


Thinking? That would involve having more than two braincells

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Quote: SaintsFan "The IRA and Al Quaeda are not religions, they are terrorist groups.'"

Quite so.
And that is the feckin point.
If you didn't blame Catholicism for the dreadful acts of the IRA, why blame Islam in general for the acts of Al Quaeda or other extremists?

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Quote: El Barbudo "Quite so.
And that is the feckin point.
If you didn't blame Catholicism for the dreadful acts of the IRA, why blame Islam in general for the acts of Al Quaeda or other extremists?'"

Where am I blaming Islam for the actions of extremists? I'm doing quite the opposite. I'm not even blaming government policy (as someone else was). I'm blaming the terrorists. Only the terrorists are to blame for acts of terrorism, regardless of the cause they identify with.

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Quote: SaintsFan "The IRA and Al Quaeda are not religions, they are terrorist groups.'"

Good. So no justification for bricking a mosque then.

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Quote: Rock God X "The point is that the actions of the IRA didn't cause people to attack Catholic churches, so why should the actions of Al Qaeda cause people to attack mosques?'"

I doubt very much that Catholic churches went completely unscathed in Northern Ireland throughout the troubles. They may have done but I would be very surprised. However, I would have to read up a detailed history of events to find out whether they were attacked as I didn't live in Northern Ireland.

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Quote: Chris28 "Good. So no justification for bricking a mosque then.'"

I didn't say there was.

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Quote: SaintsFan "I doubt very much that Catholic churches went completely unscathed in Northern Ireland throughout the troubles. They may have done but I would be very surprised. However, I would have to read up a detailed history of events to find out whether they were attacked as I didn't live in Northern Ireland.'"

I'm not talking about churches in NI. Churches in England weren't attacked in response to terrorist acts on the mainland.

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Quote: SaintsFan "I didn't say there was.'"

I know, but you seemed to be missing the point that was being made about Al Qaeda and Islam

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Quote: Rock God X "I'm not talking about churches in NI. Churches in England weren't attacked in response to terrorist acts on the mainland.'"

No, but that is because in England the IRA was largely seen as a nationalist organisation and not a religious one.

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Quote: Chris28 "I know, but you seemed to be missing the point that was being made about Al Qaeda and Islam'"

Then maybe you could rephrase the point?

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Quote: Dally "Well, Essex man was first to reject Labour and turn to Thatcher for the sake of the country. Maybe Essex man could be the saviour of the UK again?'"

This reads like a justification for attacking that mosque.
Please tell me it isn't.

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