I'm hoping Trump wins the Republication nomination and then the presidency, I'm 57,, had some great years but I'd take nuclear Armageddon over dementia any day of the week.

You have to laugh at the Torygraph. Here we have a paper which never misses an opportunity to ridicule conspiracy theory. And yet over the last few years it has stood behind some absolute whoppers seemingly without a shred of self-doubt.

Today's edition is a good example in which the paper rlclaims Gareth Williams, the so called "Spy in the Bag"rl, was offed by Russian hitmen after he had been blackmailed over compromising photos.

The source for this political bombshell? An anonymous insider at the FSB (close to the Kremlin) who passed the story to a former KGB double-agent living in exile in Britain for the best part of two decades!

The paper never explains how someone based in Latvia during the nineties could not only know a high-ranking FSB official stationed right in the heart of Moscow today - but be close enough for him not to worry about the potential consequences of admitting that Russians blackmailed and then murdered a British intelligence officer - on British soil - to a political enemy who has more than likely spilled his guts in exchange for a British passport.

No intelligence agency would dream of taking this story at face value without cast-iron corroboration - not least because spies are liars before they are anything else and - as Machiavelli (who gets an undeserved bad reputation these days) understood - political exiles are among the least trustworthy people to take seriously - for reasons which shouldn't need much brainpower to work out.

Damn i was hoping you was going to say russia 20 isis still nil

Won't take too many joint Syrian-Russian airstrikes before ISIS bug out for good.

I mean, you can believe they are fighting some kind of Holy Jihad and would rather die than surrender. But I think a far more believable motivation is US money laundered through Qatar and/or Saudi. Or even better - paper-wrapped bricks of high-quality heroin smuggled through northern Iran & Iraq from the poppy fields of Afghanistan which have been doing a roaring trade since 9/11.

Mercenaries throughout the ages aren't known for their Rourke's Drift spirit. The moment those Russian ODABs start falling they'll vanish quicker than the Christmas tab at the bar.

If the Metrojet air disaster in Egypt does turn out to be a bomb, then maybe ISIS have got one back. I hope not.

I think the bomb is more likely to have been planted by the Israelis in retaliation for Russian air strikes against Israeli-trained ISIS groups in Syria. Early news reports stated that Mossad were at the site of the crash within hours. What other reason explains their presence other than the removal of potentially incriminating evidence?

It remains to be seen where Putin will lay the blame officially. Given that Russian soldiers are currently engaged in Syria he might well admit ISIS involvement in order to shore up domestic support for the campaign.

But you can be sure he'll take action against the West for this act of cold-blooded murder. As is usually the case with major powers - they rarely act against each other directly and prefer instead to hit their proxies. Which is probably the reason behind Britain's snap decision to rush holidaymakers back from Egypt.

All this ridiculous hemming and hawing by Cameron & Obama over whether or not ISIS planted the bomb reflects their concern over what Putin's public response will be.

My guess is Putin will let the dust settle for a few weeks before giving the order to blast a Western passenger jet out of the sky in retaliation.

I follow the situation everyday from lots of media sources ( not mainstream ) and make up my own mind based on common sense.

Common sense tells me that Russia has clearly been backed into a corner in the world game, and they are fighting back (of course they have their own national interests in place in the region) their aim would be I assume to destroy all the rebels, and restore Assad (or pro Russian government) and acquire a strong foothold in the region (whether it's bases, pipelines, ports,( I Assume )

Putin may well be a puppet for the Rothschilds who put him there, along with all the western leaders - but as far as Syria as concerned, he is doing what is best in their national interest. (though putting Russian forces in the region, along with US and Israel is a very dangerous situation as far as the WW3 camp is concerned, all it would take is a large false flag to send everything to hell)

Civilian casualties from now on and western propaganda will only increase - because as the rebels are being bombed to hell, they will attempt to use human shields (if they're not doing so already) which no doubt means more civilian deaths, which the West is gonna have a field day with, in an attempt to demonise Putin. Hilarious, because the West should look at their own history of bombing civillians before they jump on the moral high horse.

I don't think the Russian end game of restoring Assad or installing a pro Moscow government will materialise. Because the closer they get to their goal, the more likely we will have a desperate false flag in the making to spark conflict between all sides (good for the world economy no doubt, but bad news for the people.

over and out.

Russia is arguably the single most poorly understood nation on the face of the earth . Since the Bolshevik revolution it has been engaged in a grim and bloody struggle against the former Tsarist White Russian establishment which is fundamentally fascist in nature. Ask people to offer an opinion on why the Russians got rid of the Tsar and you invariably draw some vague responses about "royalist tyranny" etc. But almost no-one is aware of the fact that at the time of the Tsar's removal - between fifty and seventy-five percent of many of Russia's key resources and industries were actually owned by foreign entities. When Lenin and his group took power all those industries were re-nationalised. Predictably this caused international outcry in Europe and the US - both of which went so far as to send armies into Russia to fight the Bolsheviks. US President Herbert Hoover is forever lauded for providing millions of dollars in aid during the Russian famine. But the part of the story which is left out is that at the time Hoover had investments totalling billions in Russia which were under jeopardy and what aid he did provide (which wasn't armaments) was purely to the Tsarist "White Russian" side of the conflict.

Fast forward a hundred years and Putin is fighting precisely the same battle of geopolitics against these Western-backed fascists. Recently they achieved one of their primary goals when the Ukraine was toppled into virtual anarchy after over five billion dollars of US covert funding was funnelled into the hands of ultra-far right groups by thinly-veiled CIA front NGOs. It seems astonishing that Britain & the US could be in favour of an unashamedly fascist goose-stepping Ukrainian government - especially after the millions who were butchered at the hands of Hitler's [ieinzatsgruppen[/i. I mean, Putin gets a lot of bad press - a good deal of which he probably deserves. But if a "right" side exists in this bloody struggle my guess it's him rather than us who is on it.

Idea for a cocktail.

Russia gets bad press in the west no doubt, you've only have to look at the recent 200 + deaths in the Egyptian plane bombing recently. No one minute silence observed here by the west.



Sometimes i'm confused through informations about Putin but don’t forget he’s ex KGB which gives the game away with regards to his puppet-ness. There’s no doubt he’s providing the vital balance in world power at this time. He is preventing the manipulative and power driven US/UK led western drive for power and control over the world.

Russia is enough of a threat militarily to prevent the next atrocity planned for Syria. If he stands his ground we should avert a wider world conflict. Assad has shown wisdom and courage against all odds. The international interference by western allies to de stable his government is against all decent humanity and is the result of manipulation in its worst form. The events that resulted in the overthrow and brutal slaying of Muammar Ghadaffi in Libya cannot be allowed to be repeated in Syria. It is clear and obvious to all right minded free thinking members of the world population that the sacking of Libya was illegal and driven by a desire for control. Despite how some people view Ghaddafi (he was no angel) he definitely provided his country with stability and benefit to his people in terms of housing, healthcare, education and in many other areas and utilised the country's oil wealth for the good of his own nation as well as for others. Unconventional perhaps, controversial by western definition, definitely but nonetheless a true patriot towards his country. He ran the country with a strong hand and as with any political situation the dissenting few threatened the program he set forth in his future plans for Libya and the wider African alliance which, if he had been allowed to pursue, would have been of more benefit to all concerned rather than to their detriment. Just look at the state Libya's in now.

In Syria, because Assad is his own man and not one of the western puppets he is automatically deemed to be a devil to be removed. This is not right or democratic and is a travesty of international interference which must not be allowed to prevail. A repeat of the Libyan scenario must not be allowed to prevail on the whim of the dictatorial few that for the time being remain in control of their destiny. If an attempt was made to overthrow the leaders of the US or any of its western allies it would result in immediate retaliation. Acting like "bullies in the playground" that the US is demonstrating is not a recipe for world peace.

The West in particular have created their own problems and the more this unwelcomed false flagged appointed policing of the world by imposition is allowed to continue the more popular they will become. It can only end one way - and that will be to the detriment of all humanity.

Putin on the other hand plays his cards very close to the chest, I think he's very intelligent and I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

Double post

Is it really that surprising given that the Nazis were funded by some of the most powerful people in America at the time? Prescott Bush financed them, Henry Ford (a great admirer of AH) help build their tanks, and the British Royal family were Nazi sympathisers?
A theory I've recently come across is, that the Nazi regime was seen as the first step to installing fascist rule through out the world. This was because the Monarchs of Europe, and the wealthy American investors were terrified of the Bolsheviks, and republican socialism spreading west. So the Nazi regime was put into power through American investors, and weapons manufacturers. The British monarchy also had the extra incentive because they were related to the Tsars whom had been butchered by the Bolsheviks.

It's surprising set against the context of politics - as it is [isupposed to work[/i. The kind of guff we are bombarded with from an early age. But I agree - politics has never worked in such fashion.

As for the forces at work which led to WWII - here we run into a similar dichotomy. Even before WWII had ended fiction and fact were exchanging places in recorded history. No war since records began has ever been as thoroughly written about and yet it's surprising how little of this stuff has any basis in fact. I recently read the biography of Joseph Goebbels by Peter Longerich, primarily because I wanted to understand how both the man and the party became so effective at the science of propaganda. From the outset I was dissatisfied with this book. I found it utterly impossible to believe that Longerich's Goebbels could ever have possessed the kind of managerial skills, clarity of thought and political clout which was required to manage a task of this magnitude. We're talking about the scientific management of an entire nation's culture right down to the finest details - by a man who, according to Longerich, could scarcely manage his own neuroses. The biography is supposed to be drawn directly from the pages of Goebbels' own diaries - but whether it bears any resemblance to them I really don't know. And even if it does - I'm still none the wiser. At some point I plan to look at them - but given that there is some controversy over the editing of these diaries immediately after WWII I suspect I'll be wasting my time.

For me it's just one in a lengthy list of a contradictions which have nagged at me for many years. For example, I've never been able to comprehend why members of the notoriously elitist Prussian General Staff would EVER agree to take orders from a former corporal who wasn't even born in Germany. I mean, it's like being asked to believe that Prince Philip would be willing to take orders from an NCO from Widnes.

I'm not suggesting that the likes of Hitler and company didn't exist. Of course they did. But I don't think for one minute that these people were the architects of Nazi Germany. I think it required the combined efforts of big capital, big industry, the aristocracy and the military who together co-opted the brightest minds in academia, the media etc. I think this plan was put into action perhaps even before the end of WWI by Ludendorff and Hindenberg with financing coming from the major US & British banks and technical expertise provided by companies such as Ford, IBM etc. Importantly, part of the plan demanded the creation of very visible leadership.

I mean, it's awfully convenient having all these egomaniacs ostentatiously strutting about on celluloid in the event of the question of BLAME emerging should the plan fail. So whilst Goering, Himmler and company took the fall at Nuremberg the directors of I.G. Farben, Krupp, Volkswagen all emerged from the war better off than ever. In the wake of WWII the US was practically crawling with former Nazis. It's a measure of how ludicrous the whole situation was when even the likes of J. Edgar Hoover (hardly a bastion of liberal freedoms) openly complained about America becoming a second home for the Third Reich.

On the question of eugenics - the partially successful Nazi defence at Nuremberg was,[i "Look - it was the US which taught us this stuff. Why pick on us when eugenics was primarily an American creation?"[/i
Once Roosevelt was out of the way the establishment soon obliterated what remained of the New Deal in Washington with the phony notion of the "Red Menace". Attack dogs such as Joseph McCarthy and Dick Nixon were used to clear out any and all opposition to a wind-down of WWII military spending and then these very same Nazis were used to great effect battling the Communists (who themselves were not what they seemed).

It reminds me of the quote attributed to Col. Fletcher Prouty which was given by Donald Sutherland in Oliver Stone's seminal film, JFK"The organizing principle of any society, Mr. Garrison, is for war. The authority of the state over its people resides in its war powers"[/i

Yes poor misunderstood Russia. 3 partitions of Poland that destroyed that nation, which at the time was the most democratic, multi-cultural and tolerant in Europe. Then they sought to eradicate Polish culture and identity. The Russian Tsarist regime imposed the worst form of autocratic monarchy over Eastern Europe and spread terror and anti-semitic pogroms across the territories it conquered. Later Russia started World War 1 that resulted in millions of deaths. Then the Bolsheviks took over from the Tsar, after one of Russia's brief flirtations with democracy, and invaded and invaded Eastern Europe to destroy the newly established Polish nation. Then they spent 20 years or so killing millions of millions of Ukrainians, Jews and others within the Soviet Union, before allying with the Nazis in 1939 to destroy Poland once more. They then subjected the Poles to years of mass rape, attempted cultural annihilation, deportation of Poles to Siberian gulags, dismantled its industry and crippled its economy, destroyed its intelligentsia and cultural heritage and promoting the murder of Jews. They then conquered the whole of Eastern Europe and subjected the people to economic backwardness and political tyranny. Yes it is the poor Russians who are poor misunderstood victims of history.

Given the pro-Russian propaganda you continue to regurgitate on this thread it is clear that you are either a typical left-winger hostile to democracy and liberty, or you have being watching too much Russia Today. However if America / GB are so bad why do we have good relations with our neighbours and why is there mass immigration into our countries? If Russia is so good why is it despised by almost all of its neighbours and why does it face a significant decline in population?

I really don't know where you get your history from (free in bitesize chunks when you buy a Big Mac & fries, perhaps?). The above contains so many factual errors and outright fabrications I'd still be here tomorrow correcting them if I could be bothered.



Good grief, you really ARE deluded if you think I'm some kind of misty-eyed fellow traveller.

As for highfalutin concepts such as "democracy" (ask the Greeks what they thought about democracy after the entire Athenian navy was obliterated in Sicily) - I'll leave you to believe in that. It sounds as though you are good at BELIEVING.