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Quote: John_D "Someone, somewhere, will have told the authority that sticking a logo on everything will communicate the synergy of brand <council name> to the people and blah blah blah kill me now. All at a reasonable cost, I feel sure.'"


It works in reverse when entering the Bradford Met region of course where they try not to advertise the fact, the only time you know that you're not in Bradford is after you've left it on the ring road and suddenly you see a big sign informing you that you're now in Leeds and people will probably stop pointing at your car now.

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Quote: John_D "Someone, somewhere, will have told the authority that sticking a logo on everything will communicate the synergy of brand <council name> to the people and blah blah blah kill me now. All at a reasonable cost, I feel sure.'"

Like the campaign a few years back to put pink signs randomly all over Salford that said "IN Salford".

IIRC the RFL hired the idiot whose idea that was ... AFTER he'd done it.

A bit like those teams who take a map of a town and divide up the town centre area, shading nice coloured shapes onto it and calling them "quarters", like "Theatre Quarter" because that's where the (sometimes only) theatre is and "Civic Quarter" because that's where the Town Hall is ... these are then renamed again and colour-coded as TQ or CQ, so that they can erect coloured signs to tell you the route to TQ and CQ (regardless of whether you can park there) ... because, obviously, you'd need to know, even though they were vacuous and feckin meaningless.
Halifax and Wakefield come to mind but there will be many more, I think Bradford were thinking about it but just knocked the town centre down instead.

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It's not just councils.

Our housing association suddenly decided to put new signs on our block with the name of the block on and the name of the housing association on. These are next to the two back entrances. Which are only entered via a gated carpark.

Still, at least we now know the name of the block in which we live and the name of the company that can't be bothered to hire gardeners who do anything.

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Quote: El Barbudo "I think Bradford were thinking about it but just knocked the town centre down instead.'"


Now known as the Desolate Quarter (DQ on signs).

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Quote: Mintball "It's not just councils.

Our housing association suddenly decided to put new signs on our block with the name of the block on and the name of the housing association on. These are next to the two back entrances. Which are only entered via a gated carpark.

Still, at least we now know the name of the block in which we live and the name of the company that can't be bothered to hire gardeners who do anything.'"


Oh don't ... onto another of my bugbears.

In the lovely town of Hebden Bridge, the Visitor and Canal Centre had a lovely sign painted on one side, all beautifully-done in large writing, narrow-boat style, proclaiming it as, erm, the Hebden Bridge Visitor and Canal centre.
All well and good, yes?
So, along comes the council who nail a municipal-looking plastic sign to the existing lovely sign.
What did it say? ... "Hebden Bridge Visitor and Canal Centre".

The narrow-boat-writing sign has since been repainted as a mural (not as nice, but hey, not bad) but it still says Hebden Bridge Visitor and Canal Centre ... and the municipal sign was removed.
So, along comes the council again who nail the same type of municipal-looking plastic sign to the mural.
What did it say this time? ... "Hebden Bridge Visitor and Canal Centre".

The Picture House (a 1920's period gem, listed grade II) has its original carved-in-stone title PICTURE HOUSE high up and two flutteringly attractive banners alongside the lovely wood-and-glass entrance doors, both of which simply say PICTURE HOUSE.
It has the usual glass cases outside advertising whats-on and whats-coming-soon.
No mistaking what this building is.
So, along comes the council who nail a municipal-looking plastic sign to the building which says "Hebden Bridge Picture House".

What kind of morons do we employ?

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At least the signs in Hebden Bridge do not (or did not when I was last there) have a large sponsor name. I remember ones around Sheffield that advertised a company but you had to squint to see it was Sheffield you were entering (and not blundering into Rotherham or Barnsley).

Oh, the colour for Salford is cerise: the street cleaning vans are a very amazing sight but not as good as maps showing parks in ... cerise.

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Quote: El Barbudo "... What kind of morons do we employ?'"


Big ones.

That actually reminds me that Hackney council has done the same sort of thing to the council blocks along our street. They're the early 20th-century ones that are about four stories and still decent. And they have the names of the houses already present. It's just replicated on newer signs now.

And yes, the sponsorship that Hillbilly Red mentions – really irritates me to see, say, police vans that are sponsored.

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Quote: El Barbudo "IIRC the RFL hired the idiot whose idea that was ... AFTER he'd done it.'"

They did and he was responsible for getting rid of the 13 logo and replacing it with the rather bland logo we have now

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Quote: El Barbudo "We have other tried and tested ways of deterring Southerners and Lancastrians ... it's called attitude.
And we are always right.'"


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When I lived in Stone, Staffs, the original brown Tourist Info sign simply read "STONE - CANAL TOWN". It didn't take long for one wag to take a pot of brown paint to the 'C' in "CANAL". Within 24 hours of the council rectifying it, he was back again. Looks like they've finally given up and gone all "mod"



Mind you, as far as defaced street signs go, I still love this from Canal Street in the Pink Quarter in Manchester



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Quote: El Barbudo "Oh don't ... onto another of my bugbears.

In the lovely town of Hebden Bridge, the Visitor and Canal Centre had a lovely sign painted on one side, all beautifully-done in large writing, narrow-boat style, proclaiming it as, erm, the Hebden Bridge Visitor and Canal centre.
All well and good, yes?
So, along comes the council who nail a municipal-looking plastic sign to the existing lovely sign.
What did it say? ... "Hebden Bridge Visitor and Canal Centre".

The narrow-boat-writing sign has since been repainted as a mural (not as nice, but hey, not bad) but it still says Hebden Bridge Visitor and Canal Centre ... and the municipal sign was removed.
So, along comes the council again who nail the same type of municipal-looking plastic sign to the mural.
What did it say this time? ... "Hebden Bridge Visitor and Canal Centre".

The Picture House (a 1920's period gem, listed grade II) has its original carved-in-stone title PICTURE HOUSE high up and two flutteringly attractive banners alongside the lovely wood-and-glass entrance doors, both of which simply say PICTURE HOUSE.
It has the usual glass cases outside advertising whats-on and whats-coming-soon.
No mistaking what this building is.
So, along comes the council who nail a municipal-looking plastic sign to the building which says "Hebden Bridge Picture House".

What kind of morons do we employ?'"


Don't you just love the fact though that they still call it a "Picture House" even on the updated plastic sign?

Bet you wouldn't get that in Milton Keynes.

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Quote: Ovavoo "Don't you just love the fact though that they still call it a "Picture House" even on the updated plastic sign?

Bet you wouldn't get that in Milton Keynes.'"

Yeah. icon_biggrin.gif ... the land that time forgot, a multiplex it ain't.
On Thursdays, they do 11:00 morning screenings when, included in the £5 price, you get a china mug of tea and a biscuit to take in with you.
One of these Thursdays, I'm going to give that a go myself, dodging the pensioners out on the pull.

The good news is that it transferred from Calderdale council to local council ownership last year, so the plastic Calderdale sign has now gone!!
A local Picture House for local people.
You'll never leave ...

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Slightly related...Where I used to live the council (presumably) installed big bold new signs to inform people driving down the main road that "This is a Police enforcement area". I'm not sure how this distinguished the area from others as surely the Police enforce law and order in all areas??? The only effect I could see was to waste tax payer cash, and give a horrible big brother style message that the authorities were watching!

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My favourite ones are the ones that say "No unwanted callers". How do people know if they're wanted or not without knocking on the door and asking?

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Quote: nathanwood7 "Slightly related...Where I used to live the council (presumably) installed big bold new signs to inform people driving down the main road that "This is a Police enforcement area". I'm not sure how this distinguished the area from others as surely the Police enforce law and order in all areas??? The only effect I could see was to waste tax payer cash, and give a horrible big brother style message that the authorities were watching!'"



The EDL will tell you about Police no-go areas icon_biggrin.gif

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v
Featherstone
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Barrow
15:00
Swinton
v
Halifax
15:00
Wakefield
v
Widnes
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Doncaster
       League One 2024-R20
15:00
Cornwall
v
Midlands
15:00
Hunslet
v
Crusaders
15:00
Keighley
v
Oldham
15:00
Newcastle
v
Rochdale
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R22
18:30
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
 Thu 22nd Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R25
10:50
Wests
v
Manly
 Fri 23rd Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R25
09:00
NZ Warriors
v
Canterbury
11:00
Brisbane
v
Parramatta
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R23
20:00
Castleford
v
Warrington
20:00
Leeds
v
Catalans
 Sat 24th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R25
06:00
Canberra
v
Penrith
08:30
Melbourne
v
Dolphins
10:35
Souths
v
Newcastle
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R23
14:00
Salford
v
Huddersfield
15:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
       Championship 2024-R23
18:00
Featherstone
v
Toulouse
 Sun 25th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R25
05:00
Gold Coast
v
Sydney
07:05
St.George
v
Cronulla
       League One 2024-R21
13:00
Oldham
v
Cornwall
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R23
15:00
LondonB
v
Leigh
15:00
Wigan
v
Hull FC
       Championship 2024-R23
15:00
Barrow
v
Swinton
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Doncaster
v
Bradford
15:00
Halifax
v
Wakefield
15:00
Widnes
v
Sheffield
15:00
York
v
Batley
       League One 2024-R21
15:00
Keighley
v
Hunslet
15:00
Rochdale
v
Crusaders
15:00
Workington
v
Newcastle
 Thu 29th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
10:50
NQL Cowboys
v
Melbourne
 Fri 30th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
09:00
Canterbury
v
Manly
11:00
Penrith
v
Souths
       Championship 2024-R24
19:30
Bradford
v
Dewsbury
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
20:00
Hull KR
v
Salford
20:00
Leigh
v
Warrington
 Sat 31st Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
06:00
Parramatta
v
St.George
08:30
Dolphins
v
Brisbane
10:35
Cronulla
v
NZ Warriors
       League One 2024-R22
14:00
Midlands
v
Hunslet
     Womens Super League 2024-R12
14:00
FeatherstoneW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
15:00
Hull FC
v
Castleford
       Championship 2024-R24
17:00
Toulouse
v
Sheffield
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
20:00
Catalans
v
Wigan
 Sun 1st Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
05:00
Newcastle
v
Gold Coast
07:05
Sydney
v
Canberra
     Womens Super League 2024-R12
12:00
LeedsW
v
York V
12:00
WiganW
v
Wire W
14:00
Hudds W
v
St.HelensW
       League One 2024-R22
14:30
Crusaders
v
Cornwall
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
15:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
15:00
LondonB
v
Leeds
       Championship 2024-R24
15:00
Batley
v
Widnes
15:00
Doncaster
v
Halifax
15:00
Featherstone
v
Barrow
15:00
Swinton
v
Wakefield
15:00
Whitehaven
v
York
       League One 2024-R22
15:00
Oldham
v
Workington
15:00
Rochdale
v
Keighley
 Thu 5th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
10:50
Brisbane
v
Melbourne
 Fri 6th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
09:00
Wests
v
Parramatta
11:00
Souths
v
Sydney
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
17:15
Wire W
v
St.HelensW
17:30
LeedsW
v
FeatherstoneW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
20:00
Castleford
v
Leigh
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Warrington
v
St.Helens
20:00
Wigan
v
Hull KR
 Sat 7th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
06:00
St.George
v
Canberra
08:30
Canterbury
v
NQL Cowboys
10:35
Penrith
v
Gold Coast
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
BarrowW
v
Hudds W
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Barrow
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
18:00
Salford
v
Catalans
 Sun 8th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
05:00
Manly
v
Cronulla
07:05
Newcastle
v
Dolphins
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
WiganW
v
York V
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
15:00
Huddersfield
v
LondonB
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Batley
v
Doncaster
15:00
Halifax
v
Dewsbury
15:00
Sheffield
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Featherstone
15:00
Wakefield
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Widnes
v
York
 Fri 13th Sep 2024
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull KR
20:00
St.Helens
v
Castleford
20:00
Wigan
v
Leeds
 Sat 14th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
14:00
FeatherstoneW
v
York V
14:00
St.HelensW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Hull FC
v
Salford
       Championship 2024-R26
15:00
Barrow
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Bradford
v
Batley
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Swinton
15:00
Doncaster
v
Widnes
15:00
Featherstone
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
York
17:00
Toulouse
v
Halifax
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Catalans
v
LondonB
 Sun 15th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
12:00
WiganW
v
LeedsW
14:00
Hudds W
v
Wire W
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Fri 20th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
19:30
Sheffield
v
York
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull FC
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull KR
v
Leeds
20:00
Leigh
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
LondonB
20:00
Wigan
v
Salford
 Sat 21st Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
18:00
Featherstone
v
Dewsbury
18:00
Widnes
v
Toulouse
19:30
Wakefield
v
Barrow
 Sun 22nd Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
15:00
Batley
v
Swinton
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Doncaster
 Sat 28th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
17:00
Toulouse
v
Batley
 Sun 29th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
15:00
Barrow
v
Widnes
15:00
Bradford
v
Swinton
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
Doncaster
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Halifax
15:00
York
v
Featherstone
 Sun 27th Oct 2024
     Mens Internationals 2024-R2
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov 2024
     Womens Internationals 2024-R2
12:00
ENGLAND W
v
WALES W
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
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Thu 8th Aug
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Salford
Fri 9th Aug
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
Sat 10th Aug
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wigan
Sun 11th Aug
SL
15:00
Leigh-Hull FC
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LondonB-Warrington
Sat 17th Aug
SL
19:30
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SL
17:00
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
14:30
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:30
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:00
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:30
Huddersfield-Castleford
Fri 23rd Aug
SL
20:00
Castleford-Warrington
SL
20:00
Leeds-Catalans
Sat 24th Aug
SL
15:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
SL
14:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Sun 25th Aug
SL
15:00
LondonB-Leigh
SL
15:00
Wigan-Hull FC
Fri 30th Aug
SL
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Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Warrington
Tue 6th Aug
SL 2 Wigan28-6Leigh
Sun 4th Aug
SL 20 LondonB12-10Catalans
WSL2024 10 FeatherstoneW6-68LeedsW
WSL2024 10 BarrowW6-64St.HelensW
WSL2024 10 Wire W0-61York V
WSL2024 10 WiganW70-0Hudds W
L1 18 Keighley72-12Newcastle
L1 18 Oldham32-0Midlands
L1 18 Rochdale46-32Cornwall
L1 18 Workington24-28Crusaders
CH 20 Barrow24-24Bradford
CH 20 Dewsbury16-42Wakefield
CH 20 Featherstone24-16Batley
CH 20 Halifax38-18York
CH 20 Sheffield22-20Doncaster
CH 20 Whitehaven12-24Widnes
NRL 22 Penrith22-14Newcastle
NRL 22 Canterbury22-18Canberra
Sat 3rd Aug
SL 20 Hull FC6-46St.Helens
SL 20 Salford22-16Leeds
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 20 523 264 259 32
Hull KR 20 503 259 244 30
Warrington 20 502 267 235 28
Salford 20 377 382 -5 26
St.Helens 20 501 262 239 24
Catalans 20 376 286 90 24
 
Leeds 20 371 364 7 20
Leigh 20 398 314 84 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 20 274 612 -338 6
LondonB 20 210 735 -525 4
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 18 626 222 404 34
Sheffield 18 510 303 207 26
Toulouse 17 516 224 292 25
Widnes 18 434 319 115 23
Bradford 18 421 321 100 22
Featherstone 18 464 375 89 18
 
Doncaster 18 338 432 -94 17
York 19 446 383 63 16
Batley 18 300 390 -90 16
Halifax 18 356 477 -121 14
Barrow 17 279 482 -203 13
Swinton 18 346 470 -124 12
Whitehaven 18 348 580 -232 12
Dewsbury 19 240 602 -362 2
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