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| Quote Zoo Zoo Boom="Zoo Zoo Boom"the private sector risks are huge,'"
LOL
What you really mean is the Multi year rolling contracts and Golden Handshakes for repeated abject failure are Huge. 
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| I'd say public sector workers on the lower end of the pay structure will earn more than their private sector counterparts as most local authorities adopt the recommended national living wage (£9.50) as their minimum wage, as opposed to the national minimum wage, so cleaners, building attendants, mail room workers etc, probably are paid better than private sector counter parts. However, teachers, nurses, engineers, solicitors, and directors/CEOs, i.e. jobs that require years of higher education and training are most certainly paid more in the private sector. So looking at the overall average isn't necessarily going to give you the full picture.
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| Quote Superblue="Superblue"LOL
What you really mean is the Multi year rolling contracts and Golden Handshakes for repeated abject failure are Huge.
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Don't forget they need one bad year and they are out of work and might not get another job despite years of training/experience - there are significant risks to having the top job.
Despite having the worst death rate in the EU and amongst the worst in the world none of the boss people in the NHS will be at risk in fact everybody is thinking the opposite - in the commercial world performance like would see a CEO out of a job
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| Quote Zoo Zoo Boom="Zoo Zoo Boom"A very good post - but the idea that private sector is way ahead of the public sector simply doesn't ring true - is a simple admin job any better paid in the private sector in fact its probably the opposite. Are their head's of council's that earn what a CEO of huge private business no but as the poster mentioned the private sector risks are huge,'"
You must have missed this:
"You can earn more outside the public sector but, the risks are greater."
Local government was always reasonably paid but, never the best but, back in the day, the pensions were among the best available.
The non contributory final salary schemes were unbelievable by todays standards, not to mention the early retirement in the Police, Fire service etc.
These benefits are not open to the average working man/woman in the private sector, unless of course, it's your business.
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| Quote Jack Burton="Jack Burton"I'd say public sector workers on the lower end of the pay structure will earn more than their private sector counterparts as most local authorities adopt the recommended national living wage (£9.50) as their minimum wage, as opposed to the national minimum wage, so cleaners, building attendants, mail room workers etc, probably are paid better than private sector counter parts. However, teachers, nurses, engineers, solicitors, and directors/CEOs, i.e. jobs that require years of higher education and training are most certainly paid more in the private sector. So looking at the overall average isn't necessarily going to give you the full picture.'"
Your last comment assumes those with degree's actually end up in a job which makes use of them.
In itself, degree is no guarantee of higher pay, you still need to land a position where the reward takes account of your qualification and then be able to actually do the job.
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| A third of Labour supporters feel that Starmer is doing an awful job. Let that sink in. A third. That is embarassing!
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| Quote Steph Curry="Steph Curry"A third of Labour supporters feel that Starmer is doing an awful job. Let that sink in. A third. That is embarassing!'"
Sounds it, but a third of not a lot ain't too bad.
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| Quote Steph Curry="Steph Curry"A third of Labour supporters feel that Starmer is doing an awful job. Let that sink in. A third. That is embarassing!'"
Probably the same as when Corbyn was in charge. Twas ever thus.
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| Not really, Corbyn was incredibly popular amongst the Labour members.
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| Quote Jack Burton="Jack Burton"Not really, Corbyn was incredibly popular amongst the Labour members.'"
Certain Labour members - especially those of hard left - sadly for him not with many others 
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| Ironically, Starmer has to be more popular among Tory voters than hardcore Labour supporters, something that the Labour party itself fails to recognise.
To have any chance of gaining power, Labour need a fair slice of the electorate to change their vote from the last election.
Having said that, he's a long way off at the moment.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Ironically, Starmer has to be more popular among Tory voters than hardcore Labour supporters, something that the Labour party itself fails to recognise.
[uTo have any chance of gaining power, Labour need a fair slice of the electorate to change their vote from the last election.
Having said that, he's a long way off at the moment[/u.'"
Wow! how did you come to that conclusion 
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