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| I've been to Turkey four times, the first time being in the early 80's, to Bodrum.
Back then, it was a bit like Dally describes Dalyan.
I went back to Bodrum in the late 90's (for a wedding) and, apart from the castle being the same, half the town had changed beyond recognition.
The beaten earth around the harbour had become concrete with rows of palm trees, the little old breadshop that had been just a hatch in a wall through which you bought lovely fresh bread was gone, the little stony streets had become tarmac and the small shops replaced by shiny plate glass jewellers' emporia, and McDonald's and KFC had arrived, big style.
On my first visit, a waiter was puzzled by the tip (I had paid too much, he said), another refused payment for tea because tea was for conversation, not money, and another knocked some cigara borek off the bill because he didn't think they were very good.
On my second visit, the people were still just as honest and friendly but I don't think you'd get quite the same hospitality.
I'd guess that, away from the tourist hotspots, the old ethos prevails even now.
If anyone is thinking of going to Turkey, I recommend Cappadocia ... just Google it ... it's incredible.
We once spent a week traversing the South Coast (Crusader castles, Roman ruins, blue sky and bluer sea) as far as Tarsus and then up through the mountains to Cappadocia, then across the old silk route Westwards across the Anatolian plain and back down to the coast for a week of relaxation at Side (pronounced Seeday).
Fantastic.
Up at Istanbul it is different again, here the big city ethos is much more prevalent and there is so much to see and do that you need at least a couple of weeks just to scratch the surface. We followed that with a week at Kilyos on the Black Sea not far from Istanbul in terms of distance but a century away in terms of the total lack of hustle or bustle (there were chickens in the street).
I want to go again, to the Eastern part next time.
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| Quote rover49="rover49"Dom Rep is hot, as is Egypt. The good thing about Egypt is the lack of humidity, which can be a pain in the Caribbean.
Never been to Cape Verde, but a friend has and commented that its lovely, but windy and as its a 'new' destination the infrastructure is a bit lacking.'"
Yeah we did Dom Rep last October for 2 weeks, dont think the temperature went lower than 35 so we were happy with that. Just didnt fancy it 2 years on the trot
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Yes, Turkey is great. Sadly, there is some tourist weariness compared with 20+ years ago when it was a delight (but still very little in the smaller towns). Mention of Patara brings back memories. We like Dalyan - athough a long way from a beach. When we first visited it was about 4 buildings on the waterfront, now its a small, sprading town. It is in a conservation area though and so has development has not gone out of control yet. Yes, people love little kids ot at least boys. Buy them presents, etc.'"
Went to Marmaris around 15 yrs ago and enjoyed it, went to Alanya about 12 yrs ago and asked the rep to fly us back home after 4 days due to the no stop hassle from the Turks, never been back since. Has this improved since ?
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| Quote rover49="rover49"Went to Marmaris around 15 yrs ago and enjoyed it, went to Alanya about 12 yrs ago and asked the rep to fly us back home after 4 days due to the no stop hassle from the Turks, never been back since. Has this improved since ?'"
Never been to Marmaris, it always read as a bit too commercial for me, like a cheaper version of Cannes.
But what do I know, I didn't actually get there, so can't offer an opinion.
Alanya, so I hear, is the one to avoid nowadays, popular with mid-range Russian criminals with bodyguards and prostitutes.
But again, I only spent one night there back in the 1980's (it was OK then) so can't speak from recent experience.
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| Me and the wife love Turkey , May have to give Kalkan a go. We've rented a villa again in Torba for this year again but not doing the ancient sites this year as we did most of them last year, It's definitely feet up time this one.
Last time I went to Patara beach was about 10 years ago and there was nothing on it then but miles of empty beach.
I would love to try a week on a Gulet sailing around the coast.
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| Quote McLaren_Field="McLaren_Field"Sounds idyllic, just like Greece used to be 30-something years ago.
My eldest daughter has returned from Rhodes very disappointed with the old town, from what she says its in the grip of a severe recession now and there aren't too many businesses surviving, I went there when I was her age in 1979 and loved the place so its very sad to hear her say those things - conversely she loved the day trip that she took to Turkey (not sure where the ferry took them to) and her and the youngest daughter are now looking at there for next years holiday - sounds like Kalkan would be my idea of paradise rather than theirs though
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We had our honeymoon in Lindos a couple of years ago and things were starting to go down hill then ( With Rhodes  ). Buses and ferries cancelled , Plenty of protests in Rhodes town and places closing down .
We still had a great holiday though , I found the south and the west coast of the island were dotted with little coves and beached with no-one on them. The drive on the west coast is one of the most idyllic I've ever drove on.
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| Thinking of going to Alcudia with the mrs, anyone ever been? what did you think?
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| Quote Robbo="Robbo"Thinking of going to Alcudia with the mrs, anyone ever been? what did you think?'"
All depends what you want. Personally if I was looking at the Balearics, I'd be concentrating on Menorca and Formentera.
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"Tossa's nice but if you're looking at the Costa Brava I'd recommend Cadaqués, Calella de Palafrugell an Begur.'"
Calella de Palafrugell is a good shout. Stayed in a little coastal town called Llafranc, which is within walking distance, about 25 years ago. Always wanted to return but not got round to it as yet.. Built around a cove with a small but beautiful crescent shaped beach. Used to be a favourite haunt of Dali and Hemingway and still wasn't that over commercialised when we visited. It's now meant to be very expensive. Second home territory for the rich and beautiful....Just got back from the Dalmatian coast. Some fantastic little coastal towns interlinked and within walking disance and surrounded by the Biovo National Park if you want to get up into the mountains.
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| Llafranc is just up the coast from me and is indeed a lovely little place. A short bike ride takes you up to Tamariu, which is really nice. I've been here for five years now and in that limited time I've seen the cost of living increase. This, coupled with wage cuts, means that tourist towns along the Costa Brava and throughout Spain are relying heavily on foreign tourism, noticebaly Russian.
I've always wanted to go to the Dalmatian coast and very nearly did when I was working in Ancona, Italy. Due to (happy) circumstances it's not going to happen for a year or so. Where exactly did you stay?
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"All depends what you want. Personally if I was looking at the Balearics, I'd be concentrating on Menorca and Formentera.'"
I wouldn't mind going to Menorca again, the last time I went I stayed at S'algar out of season which was like a ghost town with very little around. Just having a look at Cala n Bosch which looks like a nice place
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