A*, you just passed level 2 Brexit

Funny but only time will tell , I live in a massive Labour maj seat , and I don't know anybody who voted stay

Whereas not one of my friends, work colleagues or immediate family voted Leave and I live in Wakefield that was upwards of 60% Leave.

Wakefield was a huge leave area 66.4% and I clearly remember the Question Time programme being from there.
Not too many remainers. It reminded me of going to Widnes on a Friday night and sitting in the wrong place.

If leave voters in marginalised areas think the Tories give a monkey’s about them they’re deluded. Trouble is that for years few others have either, including Labour. The EU means nothing to many people in these areas. Nobody articulated how it benefits them to be in it. They only heard the downside. So when the referendum came along it was a stick with which to beat the establishment.

Indeed - and quite how the likes of Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and JRM managed to be re-cast as anti-establishment men of the people is utterly beyond me; that was perhaps one of the biggest failings of our mainstream media, in that they allowed these people to spout their swivel-eyed lies and anti-EU rhetoric, without any genuine challenge.

I'm resigned to some form of Brexit now, but by the Government's own estimate, it will be an absolute economic disaster for everyone but the super-rich, but will hit those marginalised, leave-voting areas worst of all. Then who will they blame?

The establishment of course. "They're all the same".

I fear that the rise of political extremes will continue. Nothing helps the extremist more than feelings of marginalisation and disaffection amongst the electorate especially if that is accompanied by economic hardship.

This is only the beginning.

This is a very important issue and to be fair it is something I never thought about or even considered. If I would have thought about it I am sure that I would have come to the conclusion that the two countries that a no deal would be worse for and as two sovereign states could get their heads together and solve this every important issue between them, without help from the EU.

The governments estimates I believe was concerning a no deal Brexit, as it was mentioned on daily politics today that these government estimates were for the short term only estimates as nobody can predict the long term future.

You high and mighty remoaners make my ache. just get used to the FACT that even though the government spent MILLIONS on the leaflets telling the electorate why we should remain which I'm sure you lot will think was totally democratic and justified (a total waste of public money imo), the then chancellor also said that if the country voted to leave the economy would completely collapse, both sides also said time and time again that to leave the EU would mean leaving the single market and the customs union and still the country voted democratically I might add to leave.

reading your posts I feel really sorry for us poor 17+ million marginalised individuals who voted to leave.

If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy.

I agree in general that's why we have elections every 5 years or so that is our democracy, however, this was not an election it was promised and put to the British electorate as a one off referendum. It was also promised by the people who we democratically elected that there would not be another referendum that should now be honoured

I don't know if you know something I don't mate but there is no indication that the British public has radically changed its mind.

It's easier to fool people than it is to get people to admit they've been fooled (Mark Twain).

Very true it would seem

Here's what Leave saidOne can say, unequivocally, that the UK could not survive as a trading nation by relying on the WTO Option. It would be an unmitigated disaster, and no responsible government should allow it. The option should be rejected.[/i leavehq.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=128

Here's what Leave saidOne can say, unequivocally, that the UK could not survive as a trading nation by relying on the WTO Option. It would be an unmitigated disaster, and no responsible government should allow it. The option should be rejected.[/i leavehq.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=128