Indeed.
Thatcher's beef was more political than just economics and the fall out wasn't just the miners.
It's ironic that government is applauded for securing the Toyota plant staying in the UK, with grants and other sweeteners, sighting the supply chain and local economy etc but, this, if it was even considered in the late 70's / 80's, didn't seem to matter when the pits closed.

Well Chissitt someone up there does not like you because after taking a wrong turn who should I see but your mate from Waterton. He is a mechanic by the way but does know you, how’s Wath by the way a bit of a change from where you started like me.
I ask him why he felt so negative about me after all I barely know him or him me which he agreed. He apparently has not seen you down at the club for quite sometime and actually never saw me in the stands, he also doesn’t know where you got the idea that he did. I believe you use to walk to the ground together until you reached a fish shop where you parted way. He was quite adamant that he had not spoken about me to anyone so I suggested the next time he sees you to correct your errors, he did at least remember your name. I would also state that actually I left Waterton long before Carter and Chester started to play there.
I am going to leave it at that and don’t try to comeback with one of your other incarnations.

I suppose I should be grateful that you for giving me the chance to put you right again, the only Waterton I know is Waterton Rd in Lupset or if it's a golf course then I've never heard of it never mind know where it is, the chap I know is definitely a green keeper at some golf course although It would be a guess as to which one, If you mean Wath on Dearne by Wath then I have to disappoint you as I don't live there and would seriously have to get the sat nav out to get there, So just to sum things up I live in Barnsley yet I walk to the ground with this chap you conveniently dropped on after taking a wrong turn, was that on Eastmoor by the way? he apparently hasn't seen me down at the club for quite sometime and we used to walk to the fish shop together where we then parted was that before we ate fish & chips or after, in a nutshell either it's a complete fabrication on your part or you seriously need to curtail your alcohol intake, maybe keep out of the Butchers Arms, and one last thing it's not surprising he hasn't said anything to you if in fact he's real as clearly it's the wrong chap.
Btw just to be clear, I park my car in the cemetery on Sugar Lane at the side of that stone building and I don't use the Con club as I am a tee total and have been for quite a number of years. HTH

Ok Scarlett and Chissit.
Stick to the topic. Anymore I now your gardener golf club or gym owner in WF 10 or WF12 is as far as I am concerned at best a wind up and it worst intimidatory cut it out or it will be holiday time for you .

Even today from the sky she creates division and hatred!! At least she has a legacy unlike some PM's we've had in recent times.

I'm not sure that the legacy she left was such a good one.
Individual greed and feck the working classes. Mmm................

Mind you, ultimately, it was the mess that she left that helped get Labour back in.

Using Bojo's logic, she's probably the godmother of socialism

The difference is that the need for coal was declining dramatically with coal exports down to next to nothing ,so why subsidise a dying industry ,the market for Toyota cars and Van's is increasing big time

It didn't matter that the pits had coal they were economically unviable to mine in part because of the unions ,under wilson and Heath the pits that closed downs work force could not be made redundant and so got moved to other pits which in turn made them unviable ,so a combination of weak government and bolshoi unions helped to accelerate the demise of the coal industry in this country

Tbf, the Leaders that followed Thatcher into office were always going to come up short and the Tory lead just narrowed and narrowed with each new leader, until, finally, something had to break.
Blair made some huge mistakes as PM, notably the PFI on Schools and hospitals (although they were, at the time seen as quick fixes) and of course, the illegal war in the Middle East, although, this was heavily supported by the Tories and there is little doubt that, it would have still happened whoever was in power. However, when you compare the politics of Thatcher and Blair
there was certainly a different "tone" to their style.
Thatcher was very much "look after no 1 and sod the rest", whereas Blair seemed rather more inclusive.

It's probably already been covered but I put more of the blame on Scargill than I do on Thatcher.
Whether she was what you wanted or not, she was elected and was defending her policies.
Scargill was not elected by the country and even went against those that did vote for him.
His strategy was flawed from the beginning and just handed the win to Thatcher because of his personal ego in many cases.
The miners that suffered, suffered badly and much of it could have been avoided. (I realise that's easy to say with hindsight)

Thank you for your potted history of the dispute, where did you get the information from, Thatcher's autobiography?

I could dissect this post & give an alternative version, but what would be the point, you're too intransigent & I'm too tired to care.

Id be happy to discuss.
Don't get my wrong, I'm not suggesting Thatcher did good things, but Scargill's role has been very well documented. It wasn't just a war of good versus evil as some would have it. It was two divisive leaders getting their agenda through at the expense of the guy on the coal face.

The miners were stuffed just as much by the unions as the government.
Its a matter of law now that solicitors and union leaders have been taken to court and in prison for mistreating union members over VBF claims fraud.
Not everyone came out of the miners strike poor..... And that is travesty here. IMHO.

I'm not in the mining industry but I lived through the miners strike in a mining area and my family has generations of miners before me. So I have no love for the destruction of the industry, but I am also open enough to see all sides of the argument.