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| Quote: World of Redboy "The only one feeling tragic is Bob Crow's size 60 gut, no more dinners, apart from being worm food....'"
What a pr!ck!
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| Quote: World of Redboy "The only one feeling tragic is Bob Crow's size 60 gut, no more dinners, apart from being worm food....'"
I would think his family are feeling rather sad.
Now go and scrape youself off the bottom of someone's shoe.
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| Quote: Dally "I would think his family are feeling rather sad.
Now go and scrape youself off the bottom of someone's shoe.'"
He'll have an ejaculatory overdose when Mr Scargill expires.
Hopefully he'll be DOA so our NHS nurses and doctors won't have to waste their hard-pressed time attempting to revive him.
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| Good at what he did.
Be interesting to see how this thread compares with some of the comments posted on here about Thatcher.
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| Including Bob Crow's own tactful remark that as far as he was concerned she could rot in hell?
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| Quote: Dally "I would think his family are feeling rather sad.
Now go and scrape youself off the bottom of someone's shoe.'"
And I would have thought that Mrs. Thatcher's family were feeling sad, when Mr. Crow, very publicly, stated that he hoped she rotted in hell.
My condolences to his family.
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| Quote: Large Paws "And I would have thought that Mrs. Thatcher's family were feeling sad, when Mr. Crow, very publicly, stated that he hoped she rotted in hell. '"
There are plenty of "bad" people in history "good" people have been glad to see the back of. I am sure all these bad people had families who mourned.
Perhaps they should adopt a dignified silence but then people would not know the strength of feeling against what these bad people stood for and it may appear such respect equates to acceptance and acquiescence.
If as in Thatchers case many attribute the destruction of their communities to a deliberate political act then I don't see the inconsistency of wanting her to rot while at the same time thinking it is a shame someone like Crow dies young.
They are both being judged on their actions and legacy.
Quote: Large Paws "My condolences to his family.'"
Same here.
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| Anyone who cheesed off so many right-wing scumbags must have been doing something tight.
RIP Bob.
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'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world'
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Well said.
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'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world'
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| Quote: The Video Ref "Good at what he did.
Be interesting to see how this thread compares with some of the comments posted on here about Thatcher.'"
The difference being Bob Crowe worked on behalf of the working man, improved his members lives while Thatcher did all she could to screw the working man. RIP Bob.
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1977_1349889235.jpg "You are working for Satan." [i:2886spie]Kirkstaller[/i:2886spie]
"Dare to know!" [i:2886spie]Immanuel Kant[/i:2886spie]
"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" [i:2886spie]Elbert Hubbard[/i:2886spie]
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." [i:2886spie]Oscar Wilde[/i:2886spie]
[url=http://thevoluptuousmanifesto.blogspot.co.uk:2886spie][color=#4000FF:2886spie]The Voluptuous Manifesto[/color:2886spie][/url:2886spie] – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1977.jpg |
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| We seem to live in days when, whatever one's opinions of an individual, one is expected to become a hypocrite when they die.
I've said it before and will repeat it now: I did not personally like Bob Crow – in eye-to-eye contact (the closest I came) I thought him surly and with an aggressive demeanour. People who knew him say that that was not the case, but that remains my opinion (ie subjective) based on my rather limited encounters with him and what I heard from some others.
However, he did exactly what his members elected him to do and paid him for: he defended their jobs and incomes – and it is no coincidence that, unlike in most other sectors, they have not lost ground in the income stakes in the last 12 years.
It's possibly only a coincidence that membership of the RMT increased on his watch.
Perhaps Redboy dislikes democracy and dislikes ordinary workers who are not prepared to lie down and be hammered by their employers?
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| Quote: DaveO "There are plenty of "bad" people in history "good" people have been glad to see the back of. I am sure all these bad people had families who mourned.
Perhaps they should adopt a dignified silence but then people would not know the strength of feeling against what these bad people stood for and it may appear such respect equates to acceptance and acquiescence.
If as in Thatchers case many attribute the destruction of their communities to a deliberate political act then I don't see the inconsistency of wanting her to rot while at the same time thinking it is a shame someone like Crow dies young.
They are both being judged on their actions and legacy.
Same here.'"
Good or bad, depends on your viewpoint. I'm not judging. However my point stands. If Mr. Crow was entitled to make detrimental statements about the recently deceased, then it should be expected that some will make statements about him, from their viewpoint.
From mine, it is wrong to speak ill, publicly, about the dead, out of respect to the bereaved.
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1977_1349889235.jpg "You are working for Satan." [i:2886spie]Kirkstaller[/i:2886spie]
"Dare to know!" [i:2886spie]Immanuel Kant[/i:2886spie]
"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" [i:2886spie]Elbert Hubbard[/i:2886spie]
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." [i:2886spie]Oscar Wilde[/i:2886spie]
[url=http://thevoluptuousmanifesto.blogspot.co.uk:2886spie][color=#4000FF:2886spie]The Voluptuous Manifesto[/color:2886spie][/url:2886spie] – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1977.jpg |
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| Quote: Large Paws "Good or bad, depends on your viewpoint. I'm not judging. However my point stands. If Mr. Crow was entitled to make detrimental statements about the recently deceased, then it should be expected that some will make statements about him, from their viewpoint.
From mine, it is wrong to speak ill, publicly, about the dead, out of respect to the bereaved.'"
When people have had the position/power to affect lives other than their own, I think it perfectly reasonable for others to not feel constrained by artificial sentiment on their deaths.
I suspect that Crow would be appalled at some of the noises being made today by people who probably, if the truth be told, detested him but now feel that they [ihave[/i to say the 'right thing'.
Ultimately in such situations, I'd personally far rather have honest views than the hypocritical rubbish we now are expected to contend with – and which only further adds to the dismal state of our public discourse. One can at least then have a discussion/debate/row about a situation.
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| Quote: Mintball "When people have had the position/power to affect lives other than their own, I think it perfectly reasonable for others to not feel constrained by artificial sentiment on their deaths.
I suspect that Crow would be appalled at some of the noises being made today by people who probably, if the truth be told, detested him but now feel that they [ihave[/i to say the 'right thing'.
Ultimately in such situations, I'd personally far rather have honest views than the hypocritical rubbish we now are expected to contend with – and which only further adds to the dismal state of our public discourse. One can at least then have a discussion/debate/row about a situation.'"
I am not sure people detested him. They probably disagreed with his views but admired his commitment. After all any free marketeer would appreciate he used his employees strength in the marketplace to enhance their earnings.
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| Quote: Mintball "When people have had the position/power to affect lives other than their own, I think it perfectly reasonable for others to not feel constrained by artificial sentiment on their deaths.
I suspect that Crow would be appalled at some of the noises being made today by people who probably, if the truth be told, detested him but now feel that they [ihave[/i to say the 'right thing'.
Ultimately in such situations, I'd personally far rather have honest views than the hypocritical rubbish we now are expected to contend with – and which only further adds to the dismal state of our public discourse. One can at least then have a discussion/debate/row about a situation.'"
In which case, WOR, however inflammatory he was being, is entitled to his view, without being derided for it just because others didn't like it.
I didn't know either of them personally, and as I say it depends on your political leaning, as to which one is the 'good' or 'bad'.
I'll leave it there.
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