Remain and anti-Trump campaigners just as guilty of trying to use fear with constant worst case scenarios being told as if they're already fact. Likely outcome will be that Trump won't be as good a president as his supporters hope but he also want be anywhere near as bad as the anti-Trump crowd insist he will. Both sides in both Brexit & America are guilty of using exaggerated worst case scenario tales to scare people into voting how they want.



And again that can be flipped around. Yes they are people who voted because of racism but also many who didn't. Some states will always vote Republican, some always Democratic, it was the swing states that were crucial and those states were voted for a black president last 2 terms so we can't just steteotype voters and insult them with terms like racist and uneducated and then hypocritically blame them for messing up America.

Sorry but, you appear to be making excuses for a President (elect) who is happy to be racist, homophobic and sexist during his election campaign.
I agree that, thank goodness, we wont see the full effect of these extremes, primarily because some of his "ideas" are not legal (even in the USA).

I dont think that you can stereotype voters and put them all into neat & tidy compartments, after all, everyone is different and as you say, just as in the UK, some people will vote for the same party, regardless of who stands in any given constituency. However, this does not excuse the style of campaigning or the deep held beliefs of the guy at the top of the pile.

It is right to question things when they appear to be wrong, so no apology from me for doing so and no matter how good or bad a president Trump turns out, Monday morning will still follow Sunday night.

Lets just hope that the groups of people targeted by, him during the campaign, improve their lives and that he doesn't just look after the White lower/middle classes and pour further misery on some of the other people in the States.

As I mentioned in a previous post, both here and in the US, there is a backlash against austerity cuts and the crisis, brought on us all by greedy bankers but, the new uncertain world has an unpleasant look about it and if more and more countries lurch to the right (politically speaking), we will all be living in an altogether unpleasant world.

google investing 1 billion

inflation gone down to 0.9% this month

pound getting stronger again against dollar

Yep, in London - land of the remoaners.



Yep, a whole point one of a percent on last month, I think you'll find it's a temporary blip.




Yep, still got 17% to go to get back to pre-brexit levels.

I have posed this question previously and nobody wanted to reply but, with the exception of "possibly" reducing immigration (as yet no deal has been done regarding the single market and there may be a concession on free movement, depending exactly what outcome there is to our Brexit negotiations), exactly where is the benefit in being outside the EU.

Inflation has come down by a fraction (albeit better than expected) but, with the full knowledge that there is a fairly hefty chunk of currenct based inflation to come through .

The pound has increased slightly against the Dollar due to Trump getting the gig in The White House.

So, if you can please point out a couple of medium or long term benefits, it would be great and you would be a step ahead of the politicians who are desperately hiding behind the "dont want to show our hand" nonsense.
A fool can tell you that in an ideal world, we would like tariff free access to the EU market and to "control" immigration but, it's too much for the leader of our country to say.

There is no direction to the good ship "Britannia" at the moment but everything is fine, just over the horizon

The article you linked to mentioned anti-Semitism. Your whole premise seemed to be that because Trump appointed this guy, Trump is some form of racist, extremist.

His comments regarding Muslims and Mexicans has made them feel very welcome in "the land of the free" plus, the appointment of a "white supremacist" to his inner circle.
This kind of thing would usually make it impossible to get elected to high office but, we seem to be entering a worrying new era in world politics.

The thing about this post-Truth politics era is that it's not just Leave and Trump/Alt-Right supporters who have a sketchy relationship with objective truths. Claims of racism/homophobia/anti-Semitism/Islamaphobia/[other bigotry] or the catastrophic consequences from doing/not doing some specific thing (e.g. voting Leave, cutting funding for X or Y cause or service) have become so gratuitously over used to push private interest that it's hard to determine whether the claim is true, is a lie, or is being misused to describe something that is more complex. Even if there is some truth in whatever is being claimed you have to ask whether the person behind it is engaging special pleading or rent seeking.

Once side might look obviously undesirable, but a closer look at the opposing side can show it's not so pretty either. So Brexit will bring severe consequences, but the EU is hideously corrupt in the way it funnels taxpayers cash to specific client groups. Trump is a vulgar bigot, but Clinton has ambiguous links with certain wealthy interests. Trump is alleged to have committed sexual misconduct, but Clinton is alleged to have helped suppress similar allegations against her husband. People make accusations that something is racist/homophobic/anti-Semitic/Islamaphobic/other and then conveniently offer paid services which will rectify same but in vague and unaccountable ways (and failure to invest in these convenient, vague and unaccountable services is proof of the claims). And there are endless NGOs and special interest groups claiming terrible things will happen if their funding/funding to their client group is threatened by decision X or Y, even if they cant actually justify or demonstrate this. Everybody lies.

Such a nuanced view doesn't find much space in today's echo chamber of news on social media.

The main thing I've noticed over the last few years of politics is that a campaign is rarely based on how good an actual candidate is, it's about how bad they can make the other candidate look.

One thing I've noticed about right wing postings is that it's money first, people somewhere else.
Quite strange if you think about it.
Money is an intangible concept and people are real.
Shows how imaginative people are and easily led.

If we all filter our consumption of 'news' through this one unalterable truth, things might change for the better.