That is what I said on page 2 of this thread a few weeks ago when it was supposedly a foregone conclusion. Was I right (again!)?

Now the dust has settled on the election result, labour might contemplate the fact they failed to win a majority. This after fighting the best labour campaign ever seen. against the worst Tory campaign in living memory. The Tory manifesto consisted of personal attacks on jezza. This backfired spectacular,can't see the tories making the same mistake again.

As a Labour voter I am pleased with this performance, been completely written off and on the back of a 2 year smear campaign against Corbyn, 2 leadership challenges and petulant MP's undermining him, it could have been a hammerblow for Labour.

As it is, they've increased their influence in parliament, humiliated May and got a whole new generation engaged in politics from an early age.

Corbyn has gained a lot of credibility after this, now people have had a chance to see the man, not the media myth. Delivering a seat increase when all "experts" predicted a Tory landslide should give him firmer footing taking the govt to task.

Not just a seat increase but the biggest increase in Labour's share of the vote since Attlee. Just think what could have happened if Labour MPs had got behind him (rather than reliving the past, which has been and gone) and the election campaign had been a little longer. His policies are right for the times.

Ant this week's "Mystic Meg" prize goes to "Dally"

It was a good call.

By offering them free stuff, easy politics and not a good way to introduce people to politics.

Its fiscal stimulation vs austerity. A lot of those policies are in place all round europe already.

Free/nominal tuition fees = Germany, Scandinavia, Spain, France
Corp Tax of 26% puts us 2nd lowest in G7 and below average in EU
National investment banks used all round the world
Free school meals hardly radical

Austerity just doesn't work long term. Sure trim back some of the perks you had when times were better, but cutting deep and fast helps no one.

True but going too far the other way isn't the fix to it.

Corbyn offered the Labour sheep a manifesto of the land of the milk and honey regardless of the fact that he couldn't pay for it. Jeremy corbyn has his whole political career been a marxist ira supporting terrorist sympathiser. He had sod all to do with the northern ireland peace process . He was a none entity back bencher who was never ever wanted by the normal labour party.

and to all you students, you're still going to pay tuition fees, suck it up snowflakes

The Labour party are a bit like a non league football team thats been beaten 2-0 by Man Utd in the cup. Happy it wasn't 5 so will do a lap of honour.

May offered the Tory 'sheep' nothing. Austerity for the many, a further running down of public services and a tired soundbite. I know you guys are forelock-tugging masochists, but even so.

the 'strong and stable' and 'fighting our corner rhetoric', must have worried as many as it reassured. A degree of imagination and flexibility will be needed as we seek an [iagreement[/i with negotiation partners.

And while Labour didn't win, we at least got a glimpse of something better and more hopeful, which is rare and precious, in a world where 'snowflakes' (very original btw, clearly nothing ovine about you) are gleefully told to suck up hardships.

My wife is a red Mancunian, but having lived there for the best part of 10 years in the 90s and noughties, I think the simile can be extended to some aspects of Manchester United.

Like the Tories, they rely on their huge wealth to beat their opponents, they have an over developed sense of entitlement, and recently have mostly disappointed their fans.

Mind you, anybody but Chelsea.

No surprise the Tories are willing to risk peace in NI. But power at any costs is a Tory mantra. Still I doubt they will be attacking Corbin for speaking with Sinn Fein after having an agreement with the DUP who are still talking to terrorists. www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... 94023.html www.irishnews.com/news/political ... r-1043974/

No surprise the Tories are willing to risk peace in NI. But power at any costs is a Tory mantra. Still I doubt they will be attacking Corbin for speaking with Sinn Fein after having an agreement with the DUP who are still talking to terrorists. www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... 94023.html www.irishnews.com/news/political ... r-1043974/

True but then she had to be realistic as she was always likely to win. Corbyn could go out and promise the world safe in the knowledge he wasn't really going to have to produce. He played fantasy politics and just produce a manifesto that sounded great and plenty got sucked into that, fortunately enough saw that it sounded too good to be true and wasn't realistic. The young vote clearly not experienced enough to know how unrealistic he was got tempted by an old man offering them free stuff.....guys get arrested for that sort of stuff

As opposed to Theresa may who sucks up to backward looking Unionist terrorists?