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The real choice was Brexit (as voted for) or Remain. The establishment, BBC, etc have consistently used the vexatious term "hard Brexit" from early on, to introduce the constant idea in voters minds that Brexit is bad and wholly unacceptable.

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Quote: Dally "The real choice was Brexit (as voted for) or Remain. The establishment, BBC, etc have consistently used the vexatious term "hard Brexit" from early on, to introduce the constant idea in voters minds that Brexit is bad and wholly unacceptable.'"


Well it is bad and the consequences will be poor, so I'd say the BBC have got it just about right.

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Quote: Dally " Brexit (as voted for) '"


Apart from racism & xenophobia the vast majority didn't have a clue what they were voting for.

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Also to take back control of our money (which we already had,) our borders (which we already had,) and our laws (which we already had.)

It's been a vacuous, self-serving exercise in appeasing racists, xenophobes and little england fantasists, who have convinced themselves that its possible to return to some halcyon era that never actually existed in the first place.

Utter madness that will end up delivering none of the things that were promised.

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The cretinous Davis, fashionably quoting the Spice Girls says we should "provide the 'human touch' by focusing on issues like housing, education, health and crime that matter so much in the lives of families up and down our country". Well cretin, your party has destroyed all those without the interference of Europe, & will continue to do so whether we are in or out.

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Meanwhile in the real world, the confederation of British industry have warned Teresa May not to close the door on low skilled migrants. Splendid news for the mike Ashley’s of the UK. Heaven forbid that the local population should receive a decent livable wage.

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Quote: Backwardsman " Heaven forbid that the local population should receive a decent livable wage.'"


You mean the very thing the Tory party have opposed for centuries?

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Wages are a simple supply and demand model - lack of labour wages go up lack of jobs wages go down.

What I don't understand is what workers rights are going to disappear when we leave the EU - seems to be the major sticking point for Labour.

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Quote: Ovavoo "Well it is bad and the consequences will be poor, so I'd say the BBC have got it just about right.'"


Were the consequences bad when we stopped trading with the Commonwealth to join the EU?

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Quote: tigertot "Apart from racism & xenophobia the vast majority didn't have a clue what they were voting for.'"

Stupid comment.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Wages are a simple supply and demand model - lack of labour wages go up lack of jobs wages go down.

What I don't understand is what workers rights are going to disappear when we leave the EU - seems to be the major sticking point for Labour.'"


The Tories have had to be forced into applying certain workers rights and some of them even opposed the minimum wage being implemented.
Their default position is to allow market forces to settle everything.
I can even remember how the "free" market was going to save us all a fortune on our Gas and Electricity and not just line the pockets of already fat, fat cats.

Conservative = Selfish = Greedy

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Quote: wrencat1873 "The Tories have had to be forced into applying certain workers rights and some of them even opposed the minimum wage being implemented.
Their default position is to allow market forces to settle everything.
I can even remember how the "free" market was going to save us all a fortune on our Gas and Electricity and not just line the pockets of already fat, fat cats.

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We have had a Tory government since 2010 - every year the minimum wage has increased so I am not understanding how us not being in the EU will impact that.

What other rights are Labour concerned about?

I would suggest you be careful what you wish for - if Labour nationalise everything do you honestly think that utility costs will come down icon_biggrin.gif

Labour = industrial disruption = inefficient industry = union power

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Labour

Were you asleep during 1997-2010?

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Quote: Bullseye "Were you asleep during 1997-2010?'"



That wasn't Labour was it - certainly nothing like any Labour party before and certainly not like the Labour that Corbyn is suggesting should be let loose on the country.

Blair was further right than Cameron.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "That wasn't Labour was it - certainly nothing like any Labour party before and certainly not like the Labour that Corbyn is suggesting should be let loose on the country.

Blair was further right than Cameron.'"



So you are claiming Blair as a Tory so that you can take the credit for some of the good that he did icon_lol.gif

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