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Quote: dr_feelgood "I think you will find Smokey was correct with the birthdate of Gideon Osborne.

rlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Osbornerl'"


Ah my bad. I didn't realise it is customary in this country to call people by their middle names.

Anyway lets get back on track. This thread is about Wedgwood Benn.

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Quote: Leaguefan "Do you write this type of thing as a wind up or, as I suspect, you really are that ignorant about the history of this country.'"


History says he fiddled while the mines burnt.

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Quote: Ajw71 "Ah my bad. I didn't realise it is customary in this country to call people by their middle names...'"


You've had it explained to you previously, and got yourself worked up into a froth of indignation about rumours as to why Gideon didn't want to be known by that name.

Perhaps you'd better make an appointment with the doctor and have them check for early-onset dementia.

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Quote: Ajw71 "I'd like to know how someone can have a 'relevant' death.
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Id like to know why you find simple comprehension so difficult.

I didnt say her death was relevant. I said she died irrelevant, i.e when she died she was irrelevant.

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Quote: Ajw71 "I'd like to know how someone can have a 'relevant' death.

The name of the chancellor is George.'"

George Gideon Oliver Osborne MP (born Gideon Oliver Osborne; 23 May 1971)

Do keep up.

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Quote: Ajw71 "Ah my bad. I didn't realise it is customary in this country to call people by their middle names.

Anyway lets get back on track. This thread is about Wedgwood Benn.'"

Who dropped Wedgwood, in a similar way to Gideon adopting George, meaning Gideon isn't his middle name

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Quote: Chris28 "George Gideon Oliver Osborne MP (born Gideon Oliver Osborne; 23 May 1971)

Do keep up.'"


So why do you and others keep calling him by his middle name? Do you call everyone by their middle names?

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Id like to know why you find simple comprehension so difficult.

I didnt say her death was relevant. I said she died irrelevant, i.e when she died she was irrelevant.'"


How dare she retire from politics and die 'irrelevant'.

By your warped logic everyone who retires and dies must be irrelevant.

Like I said, I'd like to know how someone can have a relevant death.

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Quote: Ajw71 "How dare she retire from politics and die 'irrelevant'.

By your warped logic everyone who retires and dies must be irrelevant. '"
Well people asked Tony Benn for his opinion after he had retired, he was looked on as an elder statesman, still giving speeches last year. People still wanted his opinion, to hear his say. The Wicked Witch became a punchline, nobody cared what she had to say as she slowly withered away. She was irrelevant, a large proportion of people thought she was already dead.
Quote: Ajw71 "Like I said, I'd like to know how someone can have a relevant death.'"
Then you should ask someone who claimed someone can have a relevant death to explain it to you rather than trying to involve me in this straw man.

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Quote: Ajw71 "So why do you and others keep calling him by his middle name? Do you call everyone by their middle names?'"

I called him by the name he was given at birth.

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Quote: Ajw71 "So why do you and others keep calling him by his middle name? Do you call everyone by their middle names?'"

Depends, but it's his birth first name, so why not? As Smokey says, I chose to call him by that.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "I called him by the name he was given at birth.'"


So, I suppose you call Anthony Neil Wedgwood Benn by his birth name, despite the same self chappie announcing in 1973 that he wished to known henceforth as plain old Tony Benn?
Which, to be fair, does sound a bit more Working Class, eh? There's definitly more of a hint to Council estates and your local Comprehensive, than Wedgie's traditional silver spooned route of Westminster and Oxford. I wonder why he did that?.....

And Margeret Thatcher is irrelevant? Well, given the amount of column inches, you and sundry others spend mentioning her name, you have as little knowledge to the meaning of the word, as you have to life in general.

As always, Google is your friend.

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Quote: rumpelstiltskin "So, I suppose you call Anthony Neil Wedgwood Benn by his birth name, despite the same self chappie announcing in 1973 that he wished to known henceforth as plain old Tony Benn?
Which, to be fair, does sound a bit more Working Class, eh? There's definitly more of a hint to Council estates and your local Comprehensive, than Wedgie's traditional silver spooned route of Westminster and Oxford. I wonder why he did that?.....'"
Anthony AND Neil in his name? Wow, thats poshest name I've ever heard. Where i am from people who went by Anthony or Neil would be beaten up, the posh buggers. Everyone called Anthony would be immediately be renamed 'Tony' Neil would simply be 'Ne' thats how it is on council estates.


Quote: rumpelstiltskin "And Margeret Thatcher is irrelevant? Well, given the amount of column inches, you and sundry others spend mentioning her name, you have as little knowledge to the meaning of the word, as you have to life in general.

As always, Google is your friend.'"
you seem to struggle with basic comprehension as much as AJW71, perhaps lacking that ability is why you hold grew to hold similar views?

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Quote: rumpelstiltskin "So, I suppose you call Anthony Neil Wedgwood Benn by his birth name, despite the same self chappie announcing in 1973 that he wished to known henceforth as plain old Tony Benn? ...'"


Since Tony is a standard abbreviation of Anthony, it remains accurate. And it was his first name by birth. So it would be in keeping with calling the Chancellor by his first name, as given at birth.

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I actually prefer the name Gideon. It's much more exclusive than plain old George, and certainly not as common as Anthony (in any of its abbreviations)

Still, I suppose as a Politician you have to appeal to the masses.

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