Marriage Equality Vote Today

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Quote: Dally "By your feeble logic, we should deny equal rights to Jews, just on the off chance that your nightmare scenario becomes reality. The fact of the matter is that this piece of legislation is right and it is just. I've yet to hear a single compelling argument against. All we seem to get from opponents is selective quoting of holy texts and apocalyptic stupidity like your Nazi idea.

And whilst there have been attempts by (mainly Tory) Governments to remove some rights from workers, there's been nothing that you'd put on a par with Nazi Germany. Over the course of the last century or so, the march has been very much in one direction.'"

Nazi Germany was just an example of how quickly things can change even in a modern society. My basic premise is that times change but human fundamentals do not. So, at some time the pendulum WILL swing. that may not be tomorrow, in 10 years, even in 50 years but it will.

The last century or so saw those "rights" introduced as the country got richer. the country looks set to get very much poorer in relative and probably real terms. With that things will change.

As another example, civil liberties are being eroded at an enormous rate. The instruments of the state and indeed private companies are getting increasingly authoritarian - no longer in our everyday lives do people in positions of authority take a balanced view but now its a case of fine people for any anything, no mitigation. Whereas, it is very difficult to get accountability the other way round.'"

Whether or not your outlandish ideas about the future come to pass is immaterial. One cannot seek to deny rights to a group of people on the basis that society might change in fifty years time and, if it does, they may conceivably become targets. You do what is right because it is right, you don't base your decisions on some breathtakingly unlikely scenario you've just dreamt up.