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| I am not a member of the Church of England and I don’t know much about their leadership, democracy and decision-making processes.
However, the decision to bar women from teaching within the church can only be a good thing for Christianity. For a start I hope the same ones who derailed this silly motion also defend the biblical definition of marriage when the time inevitably comes.
I don’t think that many contributors to this debate understand the reasons why women should not be allowed to have authority in church. The Bible is explicitly clear on this subject – much more so than other contentious areas such as sexuality and abortion. Those arguing against female bishops aren’t saying that women would not make good leaders – there are numerous women in the Bible who set a good example - they are simply following God’s word. If God has deemed his church to be led by men then we must accept that. We should NOT try to impose 21st Century secularist ‘values’ on to God’s unchanging revelation. It might be fashionable to advocate senior women clergy, but it is unbiblical and un-Christian.
At the end of the day it is the CofE’s ship and they must sail in whatever direction their members take them. My church does not have a hierarchical structure in place. We are all equal in our fellowship and a (male) Pastor leads our services. This is the way things should be.
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| Quote: kirkstaller "I am not a member of the Church of England and I don’t know much about their leadership, democracy and decision-making processes.
However, the decision to bar women from teaching within the church can only be a good thing for Christianity. For a start I hope the same ones who derailed this silly motion also defend the biblical definition of marriage when the time inevitably comes.
I don’t think that many contributors to this debate understand the reasons why women should not be allowed to have authority in church. The Bible is explicitly clear on this subject – much more so than other contentious areas such as sexuality and abortion. Those arguing against female bishops aren’t saying that women would not make good leaders – there are numerous women in the Bible who set a good example - they are simply following God’s word. If God has deemed his church to be led by men then we must accept that. We should NOT try to impose 21st Century secularist ‘values’ on to God’s unchanging revelation. It might be fashionable to advocate senior women clergy, but it is unbiblical and un-Christian.
At the end of the day it is the CofE’s ship and they must sail in whatever direction their members take them. My church does not have a hierarchical structure in place. We are all equal in our fellowship and a (male) Pastor leads our services. This is the way things should be.'"
you have to be a troll
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Homosexual love is obviously different from heterosexual love
Oh dear...
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| Considering marriage pre-dates Christianity it seems odd to use the biblical definition of it. Or was that religious leaders imposing 1st Century values onto it?
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| Quote: Bearded "Considering marriage pre-dates Christianity it seems odd to use the biblical definition of it. Or was that religious leaders imposing 1st Century values onto it?'"
Marriage goes back to Eden and is as old as mankind itself.
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| Quote: kirkstaller "Marriage goes back to Eden and is as old as mankind itself.'"
So how come the Christians have hijacked the concept?
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| Quote: Big Graeme "So how come the Christians have hijacked the concept?'"
How has it been hijacked when God instituted it?
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
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| Quote: Bearded "Considering marriage pre-dates Christianity it seems odd to use the biblical definition of it. Or was that religious leaders imposing 1st Century values onto it?'"
Facts aren't welcomed by some on here.
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Skin colour makes no difference when it comes to sex. If we are talking about the love which leads to marriage and I presume we are given the topic of the OP, then sex has to be a part of that. Straight sex and gay sex are different, at the very least because of the gender issues. Therefore, the love between a straight couple and a gay couple cannot be the same. I'm not saying it is wrong; I'm making no value judgement at all. But to state the two are the same is illogical, simply due to the sexual element.'"
Hey, I don’t know your moves, I don’t know what you are doing when you do the sexing. You don’t know what I do, I could be doing something so awesome you cant even imagine it. You seem kind of prudish so im imagining you aren’t being half as kinky as some people. Not all heterosexuals do it the same way.The rusty trombone, Bagpiping ,arabaian goggles, the dog and the fire hydrant, there’s a whole world of different things out there
Seems kind of perverted though that you spend so much time thinking about the actual practicalities of how other people have sex and what group you think that makes them though.
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "No. As opposed to you, who did not describe what I described.'"
We pretty much described the same thing, you just focussed on the bad things more.
Quote: SaintsFan "It fits better with my view of the world because my view of the world is based upon my experience of the world. My experience of the world is no more or less a lie than is yours.'" You have needed to invent a whole man in the sky to explain yours. I didnt. Yours is a lie, mine might be wrong, but it isn’t an invention.
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: kirkstaller "Marriage goes back to [sizeEden[/size and is as old as mankind itself.'" Did they have dinosaurs in Eden?
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'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world'
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Did they have dinosaurs in Eden?'"
Serpents apparently
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| Quote: kirkstaller "How has it been hijacked when God instituted it?'"
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Did they have dinosaurs in Eden?'"
Genesis tells us that land animals were created on the 6th day.
They may or may not have lived in Eden.
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: kirkstaller "Genesis tells us that land animals were created on the 6th day.
They may or may not have lived in Eden.'"
You would think someone would have mentioned a big T-Rex roaming about though wouldn’t you.
And what about the animals which evolved from Dinosaurs like Birds?
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