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Quote: oli30045 "Pros

Wow, it must be a LOT better than the demo, because the gameplay and graphics were WAY below Rugby League Live in that.

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Had about 5 games on it yesterday and thought it was crap. So going to take it back and get something else. Something cheap like Killzone 3.

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I've finally got round to playing Pro Evo 12 demo. Quite impressed with it tbh. The game engine is the same as last years but with tweaks and improvements, think like when FIFA 09 went to FIFA 10. Demo comes with a 20 minute game but no commentary on it. Think I'll be getting it in a couple of weeks!

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Quote: Gandy "I've finally got round to playing Pro Evo 12 demo. Quite impressed with it tbh. The game engine is the same as last years but with tweaks and improvements, think like when FIFA 09 went to FIFA 10. Demo comes with a 20 minute game but no commentary on it. Think I'll be getting it in a couple of weeks!'"


Merseyside Blue versus London at the Rose Bowl in the Master League after signing Warne Roomey. It just doesn't get any better than that.

(Or have they sorted the licenses now?)

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Quote: Gandy "I've finally got round to playing Pro Evo 12 demo. Quite impressed with it tbh. The game engine is the same as last years but with tweaks and improvements, think like when FIFA 09 went to FIFA 10. Demo comes with a 20 minute game but no commentary on it. Think I'll be getting it in a couple of weeks!'"


Can you tell me why? Everywhere I have read has said it's still miles behind FIFA. Animation, AI and particularly the tackling are being criticised. They have removed the standing tackle button haven't they, so now you can only slide tackle or 'jockey' for the ball, you can't just put a tackle in. That must be incredibly frustrating when you are trying to defending in your own box?

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Decided to buy Deus: Ex...Which I think is an RPG I believe (I never buy these type of games). Anyways seeing as it's not the type of game I play, it's not too bad but just too much wondering about looking for things to keep my entertained the whole time. As soon as I've done it it'll be going straight back most likely save the money to my account and wait for Fifa 12 to come out.

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Quote: Saddened! "Merseyside Blue versus London at the Rose Bowl in the Master League after signing Warne Roomey. It just doesn't get any better than that.

(Or have they sorted the licenses now?)'"


All the teams have proper players names and all the teams have proper team names and kits except 18 of the Prem teams. All the stadiums have proper names. A couple of weeks after the game comes out a patch is usually on the official website with all proper team names and kits for the rest of the prem teams

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Quote: Saddened! "Can you tell me why? Everywhere I have read has said it's still miles behind FIFA. Animation, AI and particularly the tackling are being criticised. They have removed the standing tackle button haven't they, so now you can only slide tackle or 'jockey' for the ball, you can't just put a tackle in. That must be incredibly frustrating when you are trying to defending in your own box?'"


I thought the AI and tackling was decent from the couple of games I played. I was still using the standing tackle though so didn't notice they had removed it. Pro's always gonna get slagged off though, even when FIFA was absolutely shocking for years and years until FIFA 09 came out it still did miles better than Pro Evo!

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Played Dead Island for a bit earlier. It didn't really do enough to make me want to purchase it, but I don't really like lazy "smash 'em" games - I got bored of Dead Rising in a couple of house. I do like how you can roam around the whole island and the wealth of weapons is appealing but the aiming system is a bit annoying, I didn't really get into the story or objectives and the Ozzy voice grates quite a lot.

I'm surprised there hasn't been a demo for Rugby Challenge, with it pretty much competing for the most popular Rugby game title, you would've thought it'd be in their best interests to release one after the RWC demo was. Spoke to someone who has played both though, and they said Rugby Challenge is superior by far.

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Quote: Saddened! "Honest appraisals on here please. Every review I've read has given it a mega score, but every review I've read has spent 75% of it reminiscing about the PC original.'"


I've only just managed to have a proper go on it the last couple of days despite having it since wednesday. Anyway, so for its excellent, stunning visuals, although the graphics in general arn't outstanding. The game is really well programmed and for a game this size seems almost glitch free. The AI is very good (reminds me of when I first played Halflife) and the game can seem quite hard at first but once you get used to the fact you actually have to think about what your doing and not just charge in it gets easier. What I really like about it is there is no right or wrong way to play the game and you can upgrade your charachter (Adam Jensen) according to how you want to play the game. I won't say too much about the story so far but its the full corporate conspiricy. Normally, a quality narrative is one of the first things I look for in a game and I think Deus Ex will deliver, although to be honest so far I'm enjoying the game that much I don't really care what happens in the story (not yet anyway).

In a nutshell think a little bit of Metal Gear solid 4, a liitle bit of Oblivion and a bit of Blade Runner in there and your not far off. I would highly recommend this game.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "I've only just managed to have a proper go on it the last couple of days despite having it since wednesday. Anyway, so for its excellent, stunning visuals, although the graphics in general arn't outstanding. The game is really well programmed and for a game this size seems almost glitch free. The AI is very good (reminds me of when I first played Halflife) and the game can seem quite hard at first but once you get used to the fact you actually have to think about what your doing and not just charge in it gets easier. What I really like about it is there is no right or wrong way to play the game and you can upgrade your charachter (Adam Jensen) according to how you want to play the game. I won't say too much about the story so far but its the full corporate conspiricy. Normally, a quality narrative is one of the first things I look for in a game and I think Deus Ex will deliver, although to be honest so far I'm enjoying the game that much I don't really care what happens in the story (not yet anyway).

In a nutshell think a little bit of Metal Gear solid 4, a liitle bit of Oblivion and a bit of Blade Runner in there and your not far off. I would highly recommend this game.'"


Sounds good. I may well buy it then as I've got a month before FIFA12, Gears 3, Batman etc kick in.

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Had a play on the Gunstringer demo tonight. Me likey.

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Quote: Gandy "I thought the AI and tackling was decent from the couple of games I played. I was still using the standing tackle though so didn't notice they had removed it. Pro's always gonna get slagged off though, even when FIFA was absolutely shocking for years and years until FIFA 09 came out it still did miles better than Pro Evo!'"


IMO, Pro has always been one of those games that I've enjoyed playing, even if it has been flawed. I've always bought Fifa, purely because all of my mates did and we used to have Fifa tourneys, but I'd buy the occasional PES and it's always enjoyable. People whinge about graphics and the way it looks, but (I never played PES 11) they've always played well IMO. People laud Fifa's '360 degree movement', but what good is 360 degree movement when you only have about 30 degrees of angle to run at without getting tackled? Fifa's additions have always generally been gimmicks. Whenever they've tried to up the game play it's always been poorly executed IMO. The greatest example of this is their yo-yo attempts to balance out strength, height and speed; it's never been close to balanced. I think it was Fifa '09 where Aston Villa were the best side on it because of Agbonlahor, then came Fifa 10, where pace mattered very little as defenders shirt pulled you until you were ousted from the ball.

However, Fifa's greatest addition, and they do deserve to be noshed off for this, is Ultimate Team. Ultimate Team is a superb game mode that revives a morbidly repetitive game. Fifa will always be number 1, purely because it has little in terms of competition, it's the established market leader and nothing will come close to it, unless 2KSports decide to have a go, which I very much doubt.

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As I've mentioned previously, I've been working on a new updated website... determined to make it look at least a little bit more professional. I've got a couple of folks from here and other forums who have already "volunteered" to take a look at the demo website and give me some feedback, I'm looking for a few more of varying internet opinions and browsers/OS/etc to help me with testing.

Anyone who is interested, 5 minutes of your time (or more if you want!) would be really appreciated. Either reply here or PM me and I'll send you the link.

The main bulk of the website is retro gaming based, but I'm hoping to include much more media and articles on many varied subjects.

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Quote: Roddy B "IMO, Pro has always been one of those games that I've enjoyed playing, even if it has been flawed. I've always bought Fifa, purely because all of my mates did and we used to have Fifa tourneys, but I'd buy the occasional PES and it's always enjoyable. People whinge about graphics and the way it looks, but (I never played PES 11) they've always played well IMO. People laud Fifa's '360 degree movement', but what good is 360 degree movement when you only have about 30 degrees of angle to run at without getting tackled? Fifa's additions have always generally been gimmicks. Whenever they've tried to up the game play it's always been poorly executed IMO. The greatest example of this is their yo-yo attempts to balance out strength, height and speed; it's never been close to balanced. I think it was Fifa '09 where Aston Villa were the best side on it because of Agbonlahor, then came Fifa 10, where pace mattered very little as defenders shirt pulled you until you were ousted from the ball.

However, Fifa's greatest addition, and they do deserve to be noshed off for this, is Ultimate Team. Ultimate Team is a superb game mode that revives a morbidly repetitive game. Fifa will always be number 1, purely because it has little in terms of competition, it's the established market leader and nothing will come close to it, unless 2KSports decide to have a go, which I very much doubt.'"


I've been the other way round all my mates buy the pro evo's but I did really enjoy last years World Cup game but it got to the point where I'd worked out which angle to score the goals into the same bottom corner. I've just never been a fan of the standing tackle and shooting in FIFA, its always seems like I either do a pea roller straight to the keeper or if I hit the ball just a little harder it spoons into row z.

Pro Evo 11 was a massive step forward and it was the best one since the ps2 days, it was just the refs as usual that would let it down. You could get chopped in the penalty area and nothing would come of it but you'd always win soft free kicks in the middle of the pitch so hope they've changed that. Seems like this year they've just tweaked it and seems a little like an expansion pack but I can't really judge it until I play the full game. I agree though FIFA will always be top cos its seen as the official football game and has always sold well regardless of how good the games were, but I have to admit FIFA has tanned Pro Evo on this generations consoles so far cos it has been the better game. I remember this time last year on here though FIFA 11 got a right slating from everyone that it was a step backwards compared to FIFA 10 but it was the best selling FIFA yet.

I've never actually played the Ultimate Team but I've heard really good things. I did download it last year but I never got round to buying the game to give it a go. I'll rent FIFA 12 out and give Ultimate Team a chance if its free again this year

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Hull FC
       League One 2025-R8
13:00
Cornwall
v
Midlands
15:00
Swinton
v
Crusaders
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Dewsbury
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:15
Wigan
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Wakefield
 Sun 11th May 2025
       League One 2025-R9
14:30
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v
Newcastle
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Cornwall
15:00
Keighley
v
Workington
15:00
Rochdale
v
Midlands
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Goole V
 Thu 15th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
St.Helens
v
Catalans
 Fri 16th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Sat 17th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
Hull KR
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 18th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
Wakefield
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Salford
 Thu 22nd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull FC
 Fri 23rd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
Hull KR
 Sat 24th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
14:30
Castleford
v
Leeds
17:30
Catalans
v
Wigan
 Sun 25th May 2025
       League One 2025-R10
14:00
Midlands
v
Whitehaven
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
15:00
Wakefield
v
Salford
       League One 2025-R10
15:00
Keighley
v
Crusaders
15:00
Rochdale
v
Newcastle
15:00
Swinton
v
Cornwall
15:00
Workington
v
Goole V
 Thu 29th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Leigh
 Fri 30th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
20:00
Hull KR
v
St.Helens
20:00
Salford
v
Wigan
 Sat 31st May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
14:30
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sun 1st Jun 2025
       League One 2025-R11
13:00
Cornwall
v
Goole V
14:00
Midlands
v
Swinton
14:30
Crusaders
v
Rochdale
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
15:00
Warrington
v
Castleford
       League One 2025-R11
15:00
Newcastle
v
Keighley
15:00
Workington
v
Dewsbury
 Fri 13th Jun 2025
       League One 2025-R12
19:00
Dewsbury
v
Goole V
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
20:00
Hull FC
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull KR
v
Catalans
 Sat 14th Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Wigan
17:30
Leeds
v
Warrington
 Sun 15th Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
14:30
Wakefield
v
Leigh
       League One 2025-R12
14:30
Crusaders
v
Midlands
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
15:00
Salford
v
St.Helens
       League One 2025-R12
15:00
Keighley
v
Rochdale
15:00
Swinton
v
Workington
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Cornwall
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Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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