It never ceases to amaze me how people like you and your union mates construct a story in your heads and filter what you read to suit your theory.
It’s sad and I’ve seen it in many middle aged people who have sad lives and who live their lives based on a self delusion, only to be reinforced in a place like this forum where the self important thrive.
I’ll wager most of those I described are stuck in dead end minor supervisory jobs and blame everyone else including Maggie (God bless her) for your pointless lives.

My motivation to write on here is only to amuse myself at your indignation

Did your commanding officer in call of duty tell you that?

Im not indignant at all. Just confused about why someone would pretend to be a wounded serviceman. Seems like a ridiculous thing to pretend.

And not one of those things you have guessed are true. Again it wouldn’t bother me if they were but not one of them are.

There is no hell, but I am pretty convinced that Maggie will have gone to her grave 100% convinced that she had done no evil, but the "right thing". She seemed utterly convinced that she was always right, and anyone who disagred with her was in the wrong. Delusional, maybe, and certainly, not everyone would agree, but if there was a hell, wouldn't it be for sinners?

I reckon the mods should look at having an extra smily, perhaps a little guy gesturing back and forth with his had on his midrift area, would be ideal for the pillock

I will go with the House of Commons as my source:

[urlhttp://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN05809.pdf[/url



It's obvious that while the likes of Germany,France and Italy retain ownership of major car manufacturers and have companies that manufacture rolling stock and so on when n the UK we have one train maker left who is under threat of closure you are hiding behind a very naive interpretation of statistics. The fact some manufacturers such as Rolls Royce build high value aero engines and this bumps up figures that relate to the value of exports doesn't disguise the obvious.

Have you been to France recently? The country is not in a good way. The future looks very dim and the people know it.

German productivity is much higher than the UK (worryingly so is that of France). The great news for them is that in a world in which manufactured goods are getting increasingly polarised between cheap and cheerful (supplied by Asia) and quality (Korea/Japan/Europe), the weaker Euro has helped them massively.


I'm interested to hear which car manufacturer the German state has ownership of btw.

so, you want to include italian, french and german companies that make engines but we should discount uk companies that do the same?



this makes your claim of entirely without merit.

sorry for the edit. there's some brilliant stats in there that you now think is the gospel.

Nationalised industries are OK provided they are cost neutral - otherwise they are being effectively subsidised by the non-state run businesses. Some areas need to be nationalised - NHS, roads, railway tracks etc. No one could possibly argue that BT is a worse company now than it was then it is a great example of progress that can made through de-nationalisation.

One thing that has occured to me is why didn't the NUM offer to take the mines out of public ownership and run it themselves if the business was such a great proposition? If as MR Fish says the coal was of such burning efficiency then everyone should be desperate to buy it - especially outside of teh UK - as it would provide massive financial gains.

We may have high interest rates but we never had high inflation - the Tories brought inflation down to 2% from 18%. The high inflation rate was caused primarily by unions involved with nationalised industries demanding excessive wage rises which caused an unsustainable upward cycle and the need to bail out to the IMF.

Dean was the boss of the union - don't blame the monkeys because the organ grinder was unable to control/manage the underlings. She is an example, the major culprits were Jack Jones, Hugh Scanlon, Arthur Scargill, Ray Buckton, Sid Weighell who demanded higher wages with no increases in productivity and no process improvements forcing costs up.

You appear to have mistaken amused contempt for indignation.

Now run along - the adults are talking.

Boy, did you ever fall for the propaganda.

Care to explain with evidence, rather than a meaningless throwaway one liner and emoticon?


While you're at it, maybe you could elaborate on why a Grammar school girl who forced her way to the top job in the country would wish to ensure the Establishment would be unchanged.............