CCTV footage has now appeared.

It has no audio and you can make your own mind up but Mitchell doesn't look like someone who lost their temper.

The plot thickens. Mitchell was done for by an email allegedly from a Ruislip constituent. Seems that the person was a serving police officer! The account in the email was almost exactly as per the police account, hence Mitchell was in the brown stuff. CCTV allegedly contradicts the police account and the constituents'.

The question is who set him up if that was the case? Police alone or where others involved - perhaps even a faction within the Tory party? Apparently The Sun is standing by its initial account. Not sure of the relevance of that.

Shame Mitchell didn't get charged with a criminal offence as some were suggesting. Can you imagine if he had pleaded not guilty and proceeded to trial. Those dodgy coppers would have got destroyed under cross ex. Would have been charged with perjury.

rlhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210655/Andrew-Mitchell-CCTV-footage-calling-police-plebs-inconclusive.htmlrl You know what that is - carefully leaked political spin.

I've been around too long to swallow this as the only evidence that Cameron has been presented with, a distant 40 second shot with no audio that "experts" have been unable to decipher mouthed comments from.

Sorry, but that is Bull-droppings being carefully fed to a media who they want to bring back onside, if the event had been a terrorist attack then they'd have produced the real tapes, the HD ones that could be used as rushes for the next Hollywood blockbuster shot from several carefully located camera angles, camera positions that were picked by the experts that they employed to provide cctv to the home of the British Prime Minster.

FFS I could provide a video clip of the quality in that report just buy nipping down to Maplins and buying a £50 kit.

Cameron forced Mitchell to resign and he didn't do it on a complete lack of evidence, in the meantime the Met Police Commissioner who presumably has seen the real security video evidence seems to back his officers rlhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20771199rl

Quote: JerryChicken "rlhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210655/Andrew-Mitchell-CCTV-footage-calling-police-plebs-inconclusive.htmlrl You know what that is - carefully leaked political spin. I've been around too long to swallow this as the only evidence that Cameron has been presented with, a distant 40 second shot with no audio that "experts" have been unable to decipher mouthed comments from. Sorry, but that is Bull-droppings being carefully fed to a media who they want to bring back onside, if the event had been a terrorist attack then they'd have produced the real tapes, the HD ones that could be used as rushes for the next Hollywood blockbuster shot from several carefully located camera angles, camera positions that were picked by the experts that they employed to provide cctv to the home of the British Prime Minster. FFS I could provide a video clip of the quality in that report just buy nipping down to Maplins and buying a £50 kit. Cameron forced Mitchell to resign and he didn't do it on a complete lack of evidence, in the meantime the Met Police Commissioner who presumably has seen the real security video evidence seems to back his officers rlhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20771199rl'" Give it up Jerry Chicken, he's been well and truly stitched up. I know you hate Tories but please show some common sense. Look at this video.... www.channel4.com/news/plebgate-r ... eo-footage

Quote: JerryChicken "rlhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210655/Andrew-Mitchell-CCTV-footage-calling-police-plebs-inconclusive.htmlrl You know what that is - carefully leaked political spin. I've been around too long to swallow this as the only evidence that Cameron has been presented with, a distant 40 second shot with no audio that "experts" have been unable to decipher mouthed comments from. Sorry, but that is Bull-droppings being carefully fed to a media who they want to bring back onside, if the event had been a terrorist attack then they'd have produced the real tapes, the HD ones that could be used as rushes for the next Hollywood blockbuster shot from several carefully located camera angles, camera positions that were picked by the experts that they employed to provide cctv to the home of the British Prime Minster. FFS I could provide a video clip of the quality in that report just buy nipping down to Maplins and buying a £50 kit. Cameron forced Mitchell to resign and he didn't do it on a complete lack of evidence, in the meantime the Met Police Commissioner who presumably has seen the real security video evidence seems to back his officers rlhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20771199rl'" Give it up Jerry Chicken, he's been well and truly stitched up. I know you hate Tories but please show some common sense. Look at this video.... www.channel4.com/news/plebgate-r ... eo-footage

Like the crowds that were gathered outside the gates?

Well he has called for a full enquiry, which you wouldn't do if you had things to hide.

Its a bluff, as is the police commissioners statement, one of them is wrong, the one who is correct will be the one who holds the actual evidence (not the bull-poop they've released to the press), or the one who controls the terms of any enquiry.

Don't forget, the Hillsborough enquiry held up a false premise just by denying evidence to the contrary.

It's very difficult to guess what's going on here. I don't even think it's a simple as the apparent police v politician(s). What is for sure that what incidents like this show is that we are not really any wiser about such matters in our so called democracy with its so called free press as the folk of places like North Korea.

Even though he's admitted losing his temper?

rlhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20775071rl

Mitchell resigned because the Police said he had said something and a member of the public witnessed it. Without that witness it's his word against the police (still not great press for an MP).

The CCTV suggests elements of the police log were not right.

Recordings suggest the Police federation had recolection issues with their Mitchell interview.

If it wasn't a tory toff, you'd be shouting about a fit up.

The CCTV doesn't prove or contradict anything. It shows Mitchell wheeling his bike through the gate while talking to a policeman. I'm at a loss to understand why this CCTV footage is thought to be so important. What did anyone expect to find out from CCTV with no sound?

Regardless of whether its an arrogant posh boy Tory toff or not, I'm still wondering why he's not charged with breaking Section 5 of the Public Order Act.