I haven’t checked those emissions numbers but the combined population of India and China is more than 40 times that of the UK. So I don’t think the use of ‘only’ is particularly justified, even if they’re correct.

Partygate has dragged on way too long… because Johnson won’t resign. I’m bored of seeing his fizzog, as I’m sure millions of others are too.

The global emissions 2021 were

1 China 29%
2 USA 14%
3 India 7%
4 Russia 4.65%

17 UK 1.03%

These are as a total of the world's co2 emissions and clearly, there is massive disparity in population numbers.
He's right though, in the sense that even if the UK were zero, it would have little to no effect on world emissions and that China and India, both of which are "fast developing" nations, are likely to increase their emissions overall in the coming years.

Certainly in China, where the vast majority of the population dont own a car etc, they will do well to keep their emissions at current levels, never mind actually cutting them.

As for Labour, I agree with him on this also but, they still remain a better option than the self serving Tories.

Aye - one of the failures of the concept of the nation state in the 21st century.

The UK, of course, has been spewing out terrible stuff for much longer, decades longer, than any other country. It's lazy and selfish to suggest that we shouldn't also be at the vanguard of cleaning up our act.

But even if for some reason taking responsibility for the sort of environmental impact we created isn't enough, if fixing the planet before it tips over the edge isn't enough, then surely the idea of not being beholden to the whims of oil producing countries is? If we were not reliant on overseas oil and gas then countries like Russia and the OPEC nations would have no leverage on us - and people living in this country wouldn't suddenly be stuck with fuel bills doubling in the space of a couple of months.

It's as though you are suggesting that we should have a coherent strategy on energy, rather than letting "the markets" pull us in a certain direction.

In summary a less than impressive Labour performance.
Post partygate Boris got what he knew was coming but it wasn’t too bad in the greater scheme of things.
2 years now to move the party in its intended direction and get this nonsense behind them.

Losing a quarter of your seats from an already very low base "wasn't too bad in the greater scheme of things"

The spin from TDLers is fantastic.

A bit quiet on here concerning that starmer blokes impending fine for breaking lock down rules, wonder if he'll offer to resign if found guilty, probably just unlucky getting caught.

What is the intended direction of the Conservative party, iyo?




He’d have to resign, on principle, imo. After the standard he has held Johnson, and in some ways Corbyn, to. Also, I suspect he’s basically a honourable. I’d like to think it’d help get shot of Johnson too… but I suspect he’ll try to exploit it as ‘see, it wasn’t just me’. I increasingly think it’ll be cost of living, and general drift and incompetence that’ll do for Johnson in the end.

Even more authoritarian, intolerant, anti-democratic and anti-British?

I'm ok if Starmer is fined and consequently resigns but, surely, he shouldn't go unless Johnson also resigns ?

He'd have to go IF found guilty after all his pious, sanctimonious, holier than though lecturing over the past couple of month's.

It's vanishingly unlikely Starmer will be found guilty given all we know about this and why it's being investigated. But if he were he'd have to go, and I'm sure as a pretty honourable person, he would.

Nobody with a shred of decency, honour or dignity can justify their actions by saying they’re no worse that Johnson, and sinking to his standards.