Quote The Ghost of '99="The Ghost of '99"OK, let's get to the bottom of it then... High energy costs - affecting worldwide and countries particularly reliant on Russian gas. The latter they sort of brought on themselves but they couldn't really have forseen what was about to happen. Now what is causing the recession in the UK, and why is it worse here than elsewhere?'" https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/econo ... gdp-growth Hardly the worst and better than France and Germany . Anyway we're not in recession yet. Are we not suffering from the global high energy costs or is that not an excuse for the UK?

Quote The Ghost of '99="The Ghost of '99"OK, let's get to the bottom of it then... High energy costs - affecting worldwide and countries particularly reliant on Russian gas. The latter they sort of brought on themselves but they couldn't really have forseen what was about to happen. Now what is causing the recession in the UK, and why is it worse here than elsewhere?'" https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/econo ... gdp-growth Hardly the worst and better than France and Germany . Anyway we're not in recession yet. Are we not suffering from the global high energy costs or is that not an excuse for the UK?

God it's like pulling teeth.
And what else is dragging on the UK economy. Causing sluggish exports and huge amounts more red tape and costs?

Are you just going to keep on moving the goalposts and giving false suppositions until you get an answer you like?

Are you just going to keep on moving the goalposts and giving false suppositions until you get an answer you like?

Surely if Brexit's all it was cracked up to be we'd now be doing far better than all the EU countries?

Anyway, this leadership contest is rather dragging on and with every day it drags on more it looks more like the Conservative Party couldn't care less about the people in this country unless they're party members. Talk about playing into opposition hands.

While it's difficult to disagree with your second paragraph, how do you know for sure the EU countries are doing better than us?

It's the bare faced lying I can't stand. They don't even try to hide it anymore.

They tell us they can't do anything to help with the cost of living crisis because they're between PM's (when we know they are saving it to make the new one look good). Yet they can press ahead with comparatively pointless populist crap like making cyclists have number plates.

Then, because of the tribal nature of politics now you can't point out this garbage government's failures or you just get a load of unrelated rubbish about the equally garbage opposition. As if you're only allowed to criticise one or the other.

Let's face it whoever wins is going to be even worse than the useless get that's currently squatting in 10 downing street...


...cue comments about transgender or Jimmy Savile or some crap.

I saw that on the front page of the Daily Mail yesterday and thought WTF...

But the poor sods who read that pile of **** will all agree. And won't care that it's BS and will not and cannot ever happen.

They simply can't see how they are being played. How chucking out that sort of thing isn't just a distraction, it's creating yet another group of people for them to be furious at. Another group to blame for everything that's wrong in the world instead of directing their (seemingly limitless) fury at the people actually in charge.

The contest and the many leaks are just a gift that keeps on giving for the opposition. I presume when she was referring to workers being lazy and unproductive she was referring to de Pfeffel.

The hilarious thing about that was, if you listen to what she said in full was that “british workers aren’t as productive as workers in some where like China. She then went on to say that vote leave blamed the EU or migrants for problems that are caused by British laziness and that we need more graft.”

So basically a politician that campaigned for remain slagging off the British worker as a way of supporting EU membership and immigration. Yet, here we are with working class Brexit supporters falling over themselves to make themselves look thick defending her.

They’ll just twist it to push through legislation attacking workers rights and the same morons will give them their full backing.

The sad thing for me is that with a viable opposition this Conservative government could be wiped out at the next election, unfortunately they're afraid to stand for anyone, or anything.

Well done you Tory voting scumbags. There’s a special place in hell reserved for all of you who voted these horrid people in.