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| Quote: " I am a greater believer in individuals taking some ownership for their actions. '"
Hanging comparator.
To answer your points:
As we have seen during this Covis crisis - unless individuals are prepared to isolate, observe the rules etc it doesn't matter what society dictates unless you want a society that behaves exactly as the centre dictates - perhaps your more of a central control individual than I thought i.e. I/the state know what's best for you!!
If you have no wealth generation there is no wealth distribution? Average standards of living have increased incredibly under the Capitalist era - does that not tell you something?
You didn't read my point the likes of Bezos need others to support their ingenuity and talent - to attract the best the simple supply/demand principle comes in to play. Better trained/educated employees push wages upwards - everyone makes more money - how do you stop Amazon making more money?
Those that earn more should pay more - but that is as it is - what you can't do is what you want to do is restrict the earning potential of the very talented.
There are plenty of people who have no problem feeding/clothing their children even working for minimum wage. Why is it that those on benefits - which in many cases will give them more disposable income than those who manage on minimum pay can't cope? Do you think an over reliance on the backstop of the state means it doesn't really matter how they fritter away their monies as the state will always provide more?
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| Quote: "To answer your points
I think that, in terms of political economics, a lot of our differences are philosophical rather that practical. I’m not that much of a radical lefty. I just like arguing... most of the time. A little break might do me good though. Thanks for the sparring. See you in a little while.
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| Quote: "I think that, in terms of political economics, a lot of our differences are philosophical rather that practical. I’m not that much of a radical lefty. I just like arguing... most of the time. A little break might do me good though. Thanks for the sparring.
Nothing wrong with constructive debate - I fully appreciate your position - I come from 30+ years of running my own business and everything that comes with that - over time you see human behaviour and perhaps you simply become too cynical?
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| Quote: "Don't forget the widescreen TV to watch their Sky subscription on! Poor bashers just love bringing out the widescreen TV attack line. If what folks like Sal and IR80 have to say I'm surprised there are any widescreen TVs available to buy, with the poor having one in every room, and all that!'"
This is Sal we are talking about. He reminds me of that Harry Enfield character. As for that other idiot that recently turned up, he also reminds me of someone? Can’t think who though? Both were clueless daily mail readers??
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| In the short term, those who are profiting from Covid should be taxed appropriately to help pay for those left earning less than they need to survive.
The poorest people in the UK pay a greater proportion of their income in tax than the richest, that should change in the long term to make contributions to wider society fair.
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| Quote: "In the short term, those who are profiting from Covid should be taxed appropriately to help pay for those left earning less than they need to survive.
The poorest people in the UK pay a greater proportion of their income in tax than the richest, that should change in the long term to make contributions to wider society fair.'"
The poorest people in this country don't even pay income tax - the richest pay a much bigger chunk of the income in tax than the average worker - most wont even pay 20% because of personal allowances if you earn £200k you would pay 45% in income tax.
Who would you say is profiting from Covid - drug companies, supermarkets suppliers of PPE?
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| Quote: "Who would you say is profiting from Covid - drug companies, supermarkets suppliers of PPE?'"
Here's a good place to start.
rlhttps://goodlawproject.org/rl
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| Quote: "Here's a good place to start.
rlhttps://goodlawproject.org/rl'"
Very good article
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| Quote: "Very good article'"
Yup, for agenda driven hate filled bile it is at least fairly well written.
You only need to read the statement from the founder to know that there are few facts and only opinion, no mention of what else could have been done, just criticism with the benefit of hindsight.
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| Quote: "The poorest people in this country don't even pay income tax - the richest pay a much bigger chunk of the income in tax than the average worker - most wont even pay 20% because of personal allowances if you earn £200k you would pay 45% in income tax.
Who would you say is profiting from Covid - drug companies, supermarkets suppliers of PPE?'"
I said tax, not income tax.
All tax should be progressive, not just income tax.
Certain business have had to close due to Covid, those that did not close and made more profit are those that should pay more tax if the system works. I am not confident it does work.
It would also help if we had a government that wasn't incompetent and was spending the UK's money on something to help get through the crisis quicker, not unusable equipment or jobs for their spouses.
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| Quote: "The poorest people in this country don't even pay income tax - the richest pay a much bigger chunk of the income in tax than the average worker - most wont even pay 20% because of personal allowances if you earn £200k you would pay 45% in income tax.
Who would you say is profiting from Covid - drug companies, supermarkets suppliers of PPE?'"
He didn't say "income tax", he said, pay "more of their income in tax"
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| Quote: "He didn't say "income tax", he said, pay "more of their income in tax"'"
he also clearly doesn't understand how Corporation Tax etc. works.
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| Looks like poor kids parents are gonna be getting more dope & booze money.
Backtracking Bozo slots another one into his own net.
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| Quote: "I wouldn't but, that's not the point.
Despite Chinas short comings and they have plenty, they ARE a economically successful nation.'"
For now. The USSR and Soviet union also enjoyed decades of economic growth. So we'll see if China can learn from the Soviet's mistakes.
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