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| I see that the right wing UK press (Daily Mail, The Times, Telegraph etc) & commentators (Matthew Parris et al) are now calling out Boris Johnson & his unfitness for office -
Sadly, it's all a bit too late. They should have been telling the truth about him prior to the 2016 referendum.
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| Quote: silver2 "I see that the right wing UK press (Daily Mail, The Times, Telegraph etc) & commentators (Matthew Parris et al) are now calling out Boris Johnson & his unfitness for office -
Sadly, it's all a bit too late. They should have been telling the truth about him prior to the 2016 referendum.'"
Can you buy the Telegraph in Warrington
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "You have to smile when the PM says that the rise in cases is down to the public no longer following the rules closely enough.
This is the same PM that wanted to get schools back (absolutely neccessary), get everyone back into their "proper" place of work (not needed), eat out to help out (not absolutely neccessary) and go out to your local (not a necessity) and all these at the same time.
It is Johnson and his government that INSTRUCTED everyone to do all of these things during August and yet HE now says that people haven't stuck to the rules.
With the furlough scheme coming to an end now, people are going to find themselves out of work, in huge numbers and without any adequate system for coping with the huge numbers that will be looking to claim some kind of benefits.
The systems simply wont cope.
There should have been a coherent plan with certain priorities but, instead, desperation to get the economy moving took over and now, with too much pressure on test and trace, we will descend towards another full lockdown.
IF this is going to happen, it would be better to do it now than wait another 3/4 weeks, when there would be even more cases.
The government strategy of lies and exaggeration is being badly exposed and it's time that Boris started telling the truth and got a grip of his Government.'"
Agree the test and trace is shambolic,but I’m not convinced it would make much difference to the rising numbers.
Seems most of Europe are declaring record increases of positive tests.
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| Quote: TURFEDOUT "Agree the test and trace is shambolic,but I’m not convinced it would make much difference to the rising numbers.
Seems most of Europe are declaring record increases of positive tests.'"
What really irks is the PM suggesting the spike is down to "our" behavior, when ALL of the recent changes were led by his governments relaxation of the rules.
Eat out to help out
Schools returning
Pubs re opening
Relaxing flights to other covid hit regions
Ans finally, the most galling part, telling everyone to go to their place of work and not to work from home
A blind man could see what would happen but, our clueless leader's instructions pretty ensured that it would.
The consequence is that numbers are up, ICU usage is up, deaths are increasing and were heading for another lockdown.
Why the hell didnt he tell people to continue to work from home until the schools were back and functioning reasonably well.
Sorry, but, this is on Bojo and his party
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "What really irks is the PM suggesting the spike is down to "our" behavior, when ALL of the recent changes were led by his governments relaxation of the rules.
Eat out to help out
Schools returning
Pubs re opening
Relaxing flights to other covid hit regions
Ans finally, the most galling part, telling everyone to go to their place of work and not to work from home
A blind man could see what would happen but, our clueless leader's instructions pretty ensured that it would.'"
And then Dido Harding saying nobody was expecting such demand for testing in September.
You really couldn't make it up!
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| Quote: King Street Cat "And then Dido Harding saying nobody was expecting such demand for testing in September.
You really couldn't make it up!'"
Well, why would demand increase on the back of everyone now being back at work and down at their local, never mind the kids back at school.
As you say, you couldn't make it up ??
We're just RL fans with an interest in current affairs / politics, these guys are "experts".
I'm just glad that I dont employ anyone with their level of "expertise"
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| Thought it would be worth updating this as there is now a track and trace app that can be downloaded.
Still not comprehensive and it seems that you have to have a new iphone (May 2020) or relatively new smartphone and it doesn't work in 2 parts of Great Britain (Scotland and N. Ireland) but, it's certainly progress. Mind you it's still a long, long way from "World Beating".
Still, worth downloading and hopefully a step in the right direction
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Thought it would be worth updating this as there is now a track and trace app that can be downloaded.
Still not comprehensive and it seems that you have to have a new iphone (May 2020) or relatively new smartphone and it doesn't work in 2 parts of Great Britain (Scotland and N. Ireland) but, it's certainly progress. Mind you it's still a long, long way from "World Beating".
Still, worth downloading and hopefully a step in the right direction'"
Middle paragraph is simply not true
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| Quote: wotsupcas "Middle paragraph is simply not true'"
You'll have to explain which part is not true, please.
The I phone reference, is an update, opposed to a brand new handset but, apart from that, it's all good.
And, it's certainly still some way from "World beating"
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "You'll have to explain which part is not true, please.
The I phone reference, is an update, opposed to a brand new handset but, apart from that, it's all good.
And, it's certainly still some way from "World beating"'"
Could be that the term Great Britain,which only refers to England,Scotland and Wales.
Or it could be the "it doesn't work" in Scotland/Northern Ireland,which reads like thats a problem with the app - which isn't true.
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| Quote: TURFEDOUT "Could be that the term Great Britain,which only refers to England,Scotland and Wales.
Or it could be the "it doesn't work" in Scotland/Northern Ireland,which reads like thats a problem with the app - which isn't true.'"
You got it
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| Quote: wotsupcas "You got it'"
They do work individually but, this is not the case when you cross from say, England to Scotland or England to N. Ireland.
You can start again in the "new" country but, if your work / travel involves crossing the borders there is a problem.
Perhaps I should have gone into more detail with the original post.
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| Quote: wotsupcas "You got it'"
Anything to say about the latest on our "world beating" test and trace debacle.
Not only have they missed 16,000 positive tests but, it seems that even if you live with someone who has downloaded the app and has tested positive, you are informed that you're still good to move around "freely".
Come on our kid, pick the fault with this one.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Anything to say about the latest on our "world beating" test and trace debacle.
Not only have they missed 16,000 positive tests but, it seems that even if you live with someone who has downloaded the app and has tested positive, you are informed that you're still good to move around "freely".
Come on our kid, pick the fault with this one.
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "The whole ****ing COVID response reliant on a spreadsheet created as xls rather than xlsx. Unbelievable.'"
This is not the first major issue with an Excel spreadsheet - sadly their use in high level projection outcomes is far too prevalent - a case of where a little knowledge is dangerous.
Are the NHS still using very old versions of Windows?
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