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| If you read the fact checker of his speech you will see the above and all the other incorrect statements he likes to make. His current tactic is to produce a fact then you continue to talk so that the interviewer gets no chance to correct the falsehood before his minder steps in to shut it down.
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| Quote JONNYGIANT="JONNYGIANT"Why can't we have a high skilled high wage economy and who mentioned anything about no return, and what would be so bad about an inflation rise'"
You ask "what would be so bad about an inflation rise[".
First of all, there has already been a rise in inflation but, the BoE believes the inflationary factors to be "temporary".
Should inflation stay above the BoE target, they would increase interest rates, which would be a further "hit" to the vast majority of British tax payers, and especially to those who have bought new properties on the back of the recent stamp duty "holiday".
I dont know how old you are but, inflation in the mid 80's was somewhat higher than it is today and interest rates on mortgages touched 15% during the Thatcher era.
This is all well and good if you are a net saver but, crippling if you have loans/ mortgage/ credit cards or other finance to pay off.
Also if the interest on the record government borrowing increased, the fall out would be immense.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"You ask "what would be so bad about an inflation rise[".
First of all, there has already been a rise in inflation but, the BoE believes the inflationary factors to be "temporary".
Should inflation stay above the BoE target, they would increase interest rates, which would be a further "hit" to the vast majority of British tax payers, and especially to those who have bought new properties on the back of the recent stamp duty "holiday".
I dont know how old you are but, inflation in the mid 80's was somewhat higher than it is today and interest rates on mortgages touched 15% during the Thatcher era.
This is all well and good if you are a net saver but, crippling if you have loans/ mortgage/ credit cards or other finance to pay off.
Also if the interest on the record government borrowing increased, the fall out would be immense.'"
But the interest rate is at a historic low ,so it will rise but we ain't going to see 80s rates, higher inflation means higher wages ,which in turn is more tax revenue and less in work benefits
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"You ask "what would be so bad about an inflation rise[".
First of all, there has already been a rise in inflation but, the BoE believes the inflationary factors to be "temporary".
Should inflation stay above the BoE target, they would increase interest rates, which would be a further "hit" to the vast majority of British tax payers, and especially to those who have bought new properties on the back of the recent stamp duty "holiday".
I dont know how old you are but, inflation in the mid 80's was somewhat higher than it is today and interest rates on mortgages touched 15% during the Thatcher era.
This is all well and good if you are a net saver but, crippling if you have loans/ mortgage/ credit cards or other finance to pay off.
Also if the interest on the record government borrowing increased, the fall out would be immense.'"
The Tories also scrapped MIRAS
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| Wages rise, cost of goods rise causing an increase in inflation. This means that to avoid wages falling behind inflation which would translate into an actual cut, they would need to increase further resulting in higher costs and increased inflation.
If he is so keen to see a high wage economy why have they pegged those of the public sector to a rate that actually means their salaries are buying less. He likes to blame business but maybe he should look to reward those in the public sector.
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| Quote JONNYGIANT="JONNYGIANT"But the interest rate is at a historic low ,so it will rise but we ain't going to see 80s rates, higher inflation means higher wages ,which in turn is more tax revenue and less in work benefits'"
If people need more income, due to higher prices, people will need higher wages to stand still and there would pressure on to increase benefits to at least keep pace with inflation or, should those with the least be squeezed disproportionately.
Can you not see the upward wage inflation spiral.
I do accept that interest rates can only possibly go one way (unless we have a period of deflation) and I accept that we aren't suddenly going to see a return to the rates from the 80's.
Try working out a 1-1.5% increase will be per month on the average UK mortgage of £137k
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"Wages rise, cost of goods rise causing an increase in inflation. This means that to avoid wages falling behind inflation which would translate into an actual cut, they would need to increase further resulting in higher costs and increased inflation.
If he is so keen to see a high wage economy why have they pegged those of the public sector to a rate that actually means their salaries are buying less. He likes to blame business but maybe he should look to reward those in the public sector.'"
The public sector have already overtaken wages in the private sector. And you want more?
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"If people need more income, due to higher prices, people will need higher wages to stand still and there would pressure on to increase benefits to at least keep pace with inflation or, should those with the least be squeezed disproportionately.
Can you not see the upward wage inflation spiral.
I do accept that interest rates can only possibly go one way (unless we have a period of deflation) and I accept that we aren't suddenly going to see a return to the rates from the 80's.
Try working out a 1-1.5% increase will be per month on the average UK mortgage of £137k'"
I'm sorry but anyone who has half a brain who has taken on a mortgage at the current rates and doesn't expect the rate to rise deserves all they get.
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| Quote wotsupcas="wotsupcas"I'm sorry but anyone who has half a brain who has taken on a mortgage at the current rates and doesn't expect the rate to rise deserves all they get.'"
Meanwhile, young (and some not so young) borrowers have taken out mortgages for 35 years or, maybe even "lifetime" mortgages and any significant increases will see them struggling to meet their payments.
We've had low rates for long enough now for them to be considered the norm.
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| Quote The Ghost of '99="The Ghost of '99"LOL, you OK hun. Sorry if my use of larger words confuses you.
JG suggested that democracy had failed because Labour's policy offerings didn't meet his approval. I've no real idea what other accusations of fascism you're referring to tbh, I suspect you just [ithink [/iyou've read that to fit with your world view.
No misfortune for me either, I voted Labour at the last election for once but I'm an Orange Book liberal more aligned with Ken Clarke Toryism than Corbyn. But I believed - and events prove me more right every day - that Johnson is too dangerous to be left in power.'"
I always enjoy your postings, absolutely hilarious. Keep em coming. Last time anyone asked if I was ok hun was in a diner in the USA by a teenage waitress wearing a baseball cap. I am working on the presumption that wasn’t you, although your political posturings always have a remarkable similarity with sixth form student politics. Your reference to Ken Clarke was an absolute side splitter, good old Ken was another charlatan. Because the press like him he never came under any real scrutiny. He obviously fooled you, bet the time share and double glazing salesmen are popular at your house.
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| Quote Backwoodsman="Backwoodsman"I always enjoy your postings, absolutely hilarious. Keep em coming. Last time anyone asked if I was ok hun was in a diner in the USA by a teenage waitress wearing a baseball cap. I am working on the presumption that wasn’t you, although your political posturings always have a remarkable similarity with sixth form student politics. Your reference to Ken Clarke was an absolute side splitter, good old Ken was another charlatan. Because the press like him he never came under any real scrutiny. He obviously fooled you, bet the time share and double glazing salesmen are popular at your house.'"
Well you seem to be entertainingly triggered by something.
I guess we won't see any policy suggestions or anything like from you though, it's all about the rather weird ad hom stuff. Whatever floats your boat. Hun.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Meanwhile, young (and some not so young) borrowers have taken out mortgages for 35 years or, maybe even "lifetime" mortgages and any significant increases will see them struggling to meet their payments.
We've had low rates for long enough now for them to be considered the norm.'"
I can see your point regarding normal, unfortunately we aren’t living in normal times. In fact at the risk of stating the blindingly obvious we are about to enter into a period of extreme turbulence.
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