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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "I see. God personally controls every single subatomic particle. No wonder he's too busy to stop innocent schoolgirls being knifed to death.'"


He's never 'too busy'. He controls everything and obviously had no interest in stopping the girl's death because she deserved it. We all do, we all deserve to die.

Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "This is my point. Anyone who planned that death is really, truly, unambiguously and definitely not worth "following", let alone worshipping. If god had indeed planned her death then he is a murderer too.'"


Murder can only be committed by human beings. Therefore, God, who is all good and righteous, cannot commit a human sin.

Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "No, it couldn't be more straightforward. You worship a murdering scumbag with no thought for the immense grief and pain which his quixotic psychopathic tendencies brings to his "creations".'"


No, I worship a God who righteously punishes evil and who loves me so much he made it possible for me to escape his judgement.

Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "So god thought, "I'll vent my righteous wrath on a disobedient people" by arranging for a lunatic to stab an innocent schoolgirl to death. Just that one. None of her mates, or the rest of the school population. '"


God has planned everyone's demise. Why single out this girl's?

Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "If you cannot see the lunacy of this proposition, then you really are beyond help. Your logic circuits are FUBAR. Your head isn't working any more.'"


You simply cannot accept that God HAS to punish sin, including yours. You are trying to escape judgement. This is not possible.

Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Yes, he can, since (by defintion) he ignores at least 99.9% of all sin, if we are all sinners, yet none of us apart from a tiny percentage meet this righteous wrath. '"


No, we all meet his wrath. Me might not all be stabbed on a bus but we get what is coming - death.

Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Yet serendipitously picks on a random young girl and her family and friends, and plans her death in the most sensless and cruel way.'"


There's nothing random about it, God planned it before the beginning of time.

Death is cruel.

Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Even if you accepted the proposition that he "cannot ignore sin", why would he not start by exercising his righteous wrath on those rather more deserving?'"


Every sinner will truly get what is coming to them in Hell, according to their works.

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Quote: kirkstaller "He's never 'too busy'. He controls everything and obviously had no interest in stopping the girl's death because she deserved it...'"


That's it. You've gone too far.

Almost every thread that you start or get involved with degenerates into this.

I or one of the mods will either have to clean up after this explosion of shît or let it go. Because what you've said is pretty much beyond the pale. There's little between you and the Taliban and their ilk.

And I am not having the victim of an appalling case such as this abused by you, whether you're mentally ill yourself or whether you're just trolling.

You're on a week's ban from this place. Try and learn something from it.

The rest of you – stick to the case itself, please. This part of the conversation is over.

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Interesting that the OP hasn't been seen for an age but is posting on his central heating comfort zone thread

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Quote: Mintball "There's little between you and the Taliban and their ilk.'"

Biblical literalists are very similar to Islamists. There is a really interesting book called A Fury For God, written post 9/11 which highlights just how similar the two extremes are in their approach to religious belief and the way in which they express it (although the book is written more for an American context and there are a lot of Biblical literalists in the States of course). However, not all Christians are Biblical literalists just as not all Muslims are the Taliban.

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Quote: SaintsFan "... However, not all Christians are Biblical literalists just as not all Muslims are the Taliban.'"


Indeed. Unfortunately, those that are tend to shout the loudest.

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Quote: kirkstaller "He's never 'too busy'. He controls everything and obviously had no interest in stopping the girl's death because she deserved it. We all do, we all deserve to die.'"


I just can't. You are the worst kind of person and I wish Hell was a real place because any sort of higher being with an ounce of common sense would see you as true evil and not any of these promiscuous individuals/homosexuals/voodoo practisers/tattooees/people wearing mixed fabrics/shellfish eaters and all the others deemed to be sinners in the jazzed up storybook

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"You are working for Satan." [i:2886spie]Kirkstaller[/i:2886spie] "Dare to know!" [i:2886spie]Immanuel Kant[/i:2886spie] "Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" [i:2886spie]Elbert Hubbard[/i:2886spie] "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." [i:2886spie]Oscar Wilde[/i:2886spie] [url=http://thevoluptuousmanifesto.blogspot.co.uk:2886spie][color=#4000FF:2886spie]The Voluptuous Manifesto[/color:2886spie][/url:2886spie] – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1977.jpg



Quote: the cal train "I just can't. You are the worst kind of person and I wish Hell was a real place because any sort of higher being with an ounce of common sense would see you as true evil and not any of these promiscuous individuals/homosexuals/voodoo practisers/tattooees/people wearing mixed fabrics/shellfish eaters and all the others deemed to be sinners in the jazzed up storybook'"


~polite cough~

I did say that that was the end of the discussion on this level. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Mintball "~polite cough~

I did say that that was the end of the discussion on this level. apologies, my blood had already boiled before I saw you'd posted after him

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I entirely understand. icon_smile.gif

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The man who was sectioned is going to be charged with murder.

The law really needs to start coming down like a ton of bricks on people found to be carrying knives in public. There is no excuse for it at all.

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There are plenty of reasons to carry knives in public – you buy one in a shop and you have to carry it home, for instance. Chefs carry their own knives around.

People might have penknives for all sorts of things – fishing, for instance.

There are plenty of entirely legitimate reasons that someone might be carrying a knife in public. We've already gone bonkers to the point of having the sort of bans in place that penalise carrying a fold-up fruit knife.

I bought one in France the other year – an Opinel. Used it on holiday, Brought it home and, the following year, out it in my bag, with my picnic for the journey, to take back.

I got stopped at St Pancras and it was confiscated. Bonkers.

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I got stopped at St Pancras and it was confiscated. Bonkers.'"


Indeed. And of course such measures which entirely frustrate and pis5 off so many honest citizens do absolutely nothing, at all, to deter prevent or reduce knife crime.

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Quote: Mintball "...I got stopped at St Pancras and it was confiscated. Bonkers.'"

I had a corkscrew confiscated at Manchester airport.
It had a tiny, tiny blade at one end for cutting through the capsule seal on a wine bottle ... that counted as a blade said the guy, size wasn't important.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Indeed. And of course such measures which entirely frustrate and pis5 off so many honest citizens do absolutely nothing, at all, to deter prevent or reduce knife crime.'"


Indeed.

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Quote: El Barbudo "...said the guy, size wasn't important.'"

Bet his wife doesn't share his view.

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