Yeah these guys would never get their hands on a white van and some blades too if Corbyn was in charge.

I have what I don't have empathy for are those that don't maximise their potential

I don't know or care who you vote for! But I 100% agree with this!

We may not either - you will not stop those who are vulnerable to radicalisation - those doing the brain washing are far more convincing than a few social workers

Yes possibly so.....and nothing would've been done about it along with the other numerous terrorists acts where the perpetrators are "known to the government"

Well since 7/7 they've prevented about 50 terror attacks and there have been, what, four or something like that? So they do a pretty good job on the whole considering police numbers have been cut massively in the last few years. I suppose there is an argument that they should be more proactive in arresting people who they believe to have terrorist links but a lot of the time they won't have actually committed any crime. They thought the Manchester bomber was just a peripheral figure and not someone particularly involved.

And what of those who are at full potential but still need state help? As i've said previously, someone needs to do the minimum wage jobs to keep your food cheap.

And if someones maximum potential is to stack shelves or, perhaps they have a disability and are not able to manage the most menial of work, would you want them to starve or, live under a park bench.

You are a cracking advert for the Tory party though.
Take benefits from the disabled, freeze public sector pay indefinitely oh yeah and cut tax for the better off.
People should be encouraged to be the best that they can but, not vilified for not achieving the same as certain others.

If people "genuinely" cannot work - probably about 1m through mental health or disability the state needs to provide for them. That doesn't include those who don't want to work and use disability as an means to an end.

With regards to what the minimum wage needs to be this is trade off between paying benefits and receipts from business in the form of CT and employers NI. What you could do is increase minimum wage to £10/hr and personal allowance to £20k and take all those on minimum wage completely out of the tax picture. Then you wouldn't need to pay benefits - much more efficient - but then you would have a load of civil servants with no job?

So your solution is what? To raise minimum wage and the personal allowance? That requires funding. How about raising CT and 45p tax rate to pay for it all?

"According to figures quoted in a parliamentary report, there are major misconceptions among the general public about the scale of benefits fraud in particular. It says a 2013 survey found Britons believe almost a quarter, 24 per cent, of all benefits were claimed fraudulently, 34 times greater than the official 0.7 per cent estimate."

When you slavishly follow a particular dogma, I imagine facts are really annoying?

It's also smaller than the amount of money underpaid to those entitled to it. And a fraction of the amount of tax avoidance.

Exactly, the Tories peddle this Striver vs Skiver narrative is nonsense to set the lower orders fighting amongst themselves for the crumbs off their table, while they carve up the hog roast amongst themselves and their friends.