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Quote: shinymcshine "The context is that Clubb is saying that Savelio isn't Polynesian, noting that Savelio was born in NZ with a Samoan father, albeit moved to Warrington in his early years.

So I'm guessing you'd be more upset if someone said your weren't English or you weren't a proper Yorkshireman, as that's what essentially Clubb has said, and therefore why it's taken within the remit of racist abuse.'"

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
why is having your feelings hurt, worse than having a brick smashed on your head.? I would sooner have a few insults thrown at me, i can laugh those off, but a brick would certainly hurt me more. The world has gone soft. The punishment has been given, time to move on.

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Some might say you fail to recognise the fundamentals of discriminatory behaviours, but hey, they're only words, so there's no need for a response.

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Quote: shinymcshine "Some might say you fail to recognise the fundamentals of discriminatory behaviours, but hey, they're only words, so there's no need for a response.'"

Exactly

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Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
why is having your feelings hurt, worse than having a brick smashed on your head.? I would sooner have a few insults thrown at me, i can laugh those off, but a brick would certainly hurt me more. The world has gone soft. The punishment has been given, time to move on.'"



Yet you cannot move on because you keep coming back to it.
You know nothing about Savellios background. Maybe he was bullied and taunted for not being British or white enough when he was living in Warrington. Maybe he experienced that drip drip of racism every day. Maybe that is why words can be so damaging. How often did you get called whitey or white when you were growing up. Maybe that is why the idea of a few verbals mans little to you. Regardless of wether you like it racist attitudes are now less acceptable.

So go back to playing war games and pretending you are Monty. Oh and by the way stop buying into the Dunkirk was a victory it was a massive defeat.

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Quote: Durham Giant "Yet you cannot move on because you keep coming back to it.
You know nothing about Savellios background. Maybe he was bullied and taunted for not being British or white enough when he was living in Warrington. Maybe he experienced that drip drip of racism every day. Maybe that is why words can be so damaging. How often did you get called whitey or white friend when you were growing up. Maybe that is why the idea of a few verbals mans little to you. Regardless of wether you like it racist attitudes are now less acceptable.

So go back to playing war games and pretending you are Monty. Oh and by the way stop buying into the Dunkirk was a victory it was a massive defeat.'"

Yes it was, but those who came through it, such as my dad, didn’t just sit there and cry about it, they recovered and were more determined than ever to put things right. That’s one of the reasons today, you can post on forums such as this. I don’t have to play war games, better men than I do that for me, you, and all the Woke leftists who cry if anyone says boo. You and everyone else should be grateful for those who went through the horror of Dunkirk, and the war.

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Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Yes it was, but those who came through it, such as my dad, didn’t just sit there and cry about it, they recovered and were more determined than ever to put things right. That’s one of the reasons today, you can post on forums such as this. I don’t have to play war games, better men than I do that for me, you, and all the Woke leftists who cry if anyone says boo. You and everyone else should be grateful for those who went through the horror of Dunkirk, and the war.'"


So I guess your dad was one of those who voted Labour after the war for social change such as the NHS.

Funny how you think leftists cry if anyone says boo. Yet it was all those leftists fighting against Franco in Spain and the blackshirts on cable street whilst those you support now were busy supporting the fascists

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Quote: Durham Giant "So I guess your dad was one of those who voted Labour after the war for social change such as the NHS.

Funny how you think leftists cry if anyone says boo. Yet it was all those leftists fighting against Franco in Spain and the blackshirts on cable street whilst those you support now were busy supporting the fascists'"


Thread derailed.
I was threatened with a holiday for that.
Double standards mate.

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Quote: Cokey "Thread derailed.
I was threatened with a holiday for that.
Double standards mate.'"


Good point well made,
I apologise for that although not for challenging those apologists who are defending clubb

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Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Yes it was, but those who came through it, such as my dad, didn’t just sit there and cry about it, they recovered and were more determined than ever to put things right. That’s one of the reasons today, you can post on forums such as this. I don’t have to play war games, better men than I do that for me, you, and all the Woke leftists who cry if anyone says boo. You and everyone else should be grateful for those who went through the horror of Dunkirk, and the war.'"


“woke" is defined as: "Originally: well-informed, up-to-date.”

Does that mean the right aren’t well informed?

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Quote: Willzay "“woke" is defined as

I'm well informed.
It is best not to have a conscious bias or an unconscious bias.
Be a non-binary non-gender specific specimen who is able to be transracial.
Do not speak,even to friends or relations in case another person is offended.
If anyone is really naughty they don't get punished,anyway,because the bleeding hearts don't like the bad people being punished.
If I'm not well - informed it's because I wasn't taught correctly be the ever-changing guidelines made up by people being paid a fortune for continually changing the guidelines.
These are the over-privileged people who have attended universities and can't get proper jobs but just alter semantics to suit their prejudices,biased agenda.
We should all take lessons from the USA the experts on race relations.( I may not be serious here and I am in no way associated with Warrington )
Staying on thread - Maybe Clubb ain't completely in the wrong.
I am now off to study whether Polynesians are more of a persecuted minority than the white folk living in England.
I may be gone for some time.If a university or made up organisation with political motives,or one of those in the USA where one of the females acquires lots of mansions,I am available to take payment...

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I would also agree and well said sir

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Least we now know whose stuck in the 1950’s

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Dont talk stupid,we have a different opinion that is all.Might not suit yours then tough you will have to live with it as other people live with yours.

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Quote: Willzay "Least we now know whose stuck in the 1950’s'"


If you are referring to me,I'm sitting back while statues are being brought down because of a situation long before the 1950's.
I am learning that history is being re-written,and I am learning that some female,leading light of the BLM political activists lot,has now acquired a number of mansions,while many of her fellow USA citizens have the audacity to try and dictate to me how I should think and act.
I don't need to be told.
The slavery situation went on a long time prior to the 1950's.
With the deliberately divisive conduct of the current spokespeople, racial respect is many decades away.
So much for universities,and education,education,education,Mr Blair.
https://mobile.twitter.com/tophertownmu ... 9974553607

Staying on thread - I am sick of so-called adult behaviour.The opportunity for a so-called re-set has been lost.
It gets worse as it goes on.
Sport supposed to take me away from the harsh realities of life.
Having Americans, and academics, dictate from their ivory towers does my plucker in.
I would be grateful if rugby league players could conduct themselves a lot better.
Quote: Willzay "Least we now know whose stuck in the 1950’s'"


If you are referring to me,I'm sitting back while statues are being brought down because of a situation long before the 1950's.
I am learning that history is being re-written,and I am learning that some female,leading light of the BLM political activists lot,has now acquired a number of mansions,while many of her fellow USA citizens have the audacity to try and dictate to me how I should think and act.
I don't need to be told.
The slavery situation went on a long time prior to the 1950's.
With the deliberately divisive conduct of the current spokespeople, racial respect is many decades away.
So much for universities,and education,education,education,Mr Blair.
https://mobile.twitter.com/tophertownmu ... 9974553607

Staying on thread - I am sick of so-called adult behaviour.The opportunity for a so-called re-set has been lost.
It gets worse as it goes on.
Sport supposed to take me away from the harsh realities of life.
Having Americans, and academics, dictate from their ivory towers does my plucker in.
I would be grateful if rugby league players could conduct themselves a lot better.


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     National Rugby League 2024-R27
06:00
St.George
v
Canberra
08:30
Canterbury
v
NQL Cowboys
10:35
Penrith
v
Gold Coast
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
BarrowW
v
Hudds W
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Barrow
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
18:00
Salford
v
Catalans
 Sun 8th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
05:00
Manly
v
Cronulla
07:05
Newcastle
v
Dolphins
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
WiganW
v
York V
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
15:00
Huddersfield
v
LondonB
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Batley
v
Doncaster
15:00
Halifax
v
Dewsbury
15:00
Sheffield
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Featherstone
15:00
Wakefield
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Widnes
v
York
 Fri 13th Sep 2024
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull KR
20:00
St.Helens
v
Castleford
20:00
Wigan
v
Leeds
 Sat 14th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
14:00
FeatherstoneW
v
York V
14:00
St.HelensW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Hull FC
v
Salford
       Championship 2024-R26
15:00
Barrow
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Bradford
v
Batley
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Swinton
15:00
Doncaster
v
Widnes
15:00
Featherstone
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
York
17:00
Toulouse
v
Halifax
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Catalans
v
LondonB
 Sun 15th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
12:00
WiganW
v
LeedsW
14:00
Hudds W
v
Wire W
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Fri 20th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
19:30
Sheffield
v
York
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull FC
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull KR
v
Leeds
20:00
Leigh
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
LondonB
20:00
Wigan
v
Salford
 Sat 21st Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
18:00
Featherstone
v
Dewsbury
18:00
Widnes
v
Toulouse
19:30
Wakefield
v
Barrow
 Sun 22nd Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
15:00
Batley
v
Swinton
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Doncaster
 Sat 28th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
17:00
Toulouse
v
Batley
 Sun 29th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
15:00
Barrow
v
Widnes
15:00
Bradford
v
Swinton
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
Doncaster
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Halifax
15:00
York
v
Featherstone
 Sun 27th Oct 2024
     Mens Internationals 2024-R2
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov 2024
     Womens Internationals 2024-R2
12:00
ENGLAND W
v
WALES W
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
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Matches on TV
Thu 8th Aug
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Salford
Fri 9th Aug
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
Sat 10th Aug
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wigan
Sun 11th Aug
SL
15:00
Leigh-Hull FC
SL
15:00
LondonB-Warrington
Sat 17th Aug
SL
19:30
Warrington-Leeds
SL
17:00
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
14:30
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:30
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:00
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:30
Huddersfield-Castleford
Fri 23rd Aug
SL
20:00
Castleford-Warrington
SL
20:00
Leeds-Catalans
Sat 24th Aug
SL
15:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
SL
14:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Sun 25th Aug
SL
15:00
LondonB-Leigh
SL
15:00
Wigan-Hull FC
Fri 30th Aug
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Warrington
Sun 4th Aug
SL 20 LondonB12-10Catalans
WSL2024 10 FeatherstoneW6-68LeedsW
WSL2024 10 BarrowW6-64St.HelensW
WSL2024 10 Wire W0-61York V
WSL2024 10 WiganW70-0Hudds W
L1 18 Keighley72-12Newcastle
L1 18 Oldham32-0Midlands
L1 18 Rochdale46-32Cornwall
L1 18 Workington24-28Crusaders
CH 20 Barrow24-24Bradford
CH 20 Dewsbury16-42Wakefield
CH 20 Featherstone24-16Batley
CH 20 Halifax38-18York
CH 20 Sheffield22-20Doncaster
CH 20 Whitehaven12-24Widnes
NRL 22 Penrith22-14Newcastle
NRL 22 Canterbury22-18Canberra
Sat 3rd Aug
SL 20 Hull FC6-46St.Helens
SL 20 Salford22-16Leeds
CH 20 Swinton4-48Toulouse
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Hull KR 20 503 259 244 30
Wigan 19 495 258 237 30
Warrington 20 502 267 235 28
Salford 20 377 382 -5 26
St.Helens 20 501 262 239 24
Catalans 20 376 286 90 24
 
Leeds 20 371 364 7 20
Leigh 19 392 286 106 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 20 274 612 -338 6
LondonB 20 210 735 -525 4
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 18 626 222 404 34
Sheffield 18 510 303 207 26
Toulouse 17 516 224 292 25
Widnes 18 434 319 115 23
Bradford 18 421 321 100 22
Featherstone 18 464 375 89 18
 
Doncaster 18 338 432 -94 17
York 19 446 383 63 16
Batley 18 300 390 -90 16
Halifax 18 356 477 -121 14
Barrow 17 279 482 -203 13
Swinton 18 346 470 -124 12
Whitehaven 18 348 580 -232 12
Dewsbury 19 240 602 -362 2
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