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Quote: shinymcshine "The context is that Clubb is saying that Savelio isn't Polynesian, noting that Savelio was born in NZ with a Samoan father, albeit moved to Warrington in his early years.

So I'm guessing you'd be more upset if someone said your weren't English or you weren't a proper Yorkshireman, as that's what essentially Clubb has said, and therefore why it's taken within the remit of racist abuse.'"

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
why is having your feelings hurt, worse than having a brick smashed on your head.? I would sooner have a few insults thrown at me, i can laugh those off, but a brick would certainly hurt me more. The world has gone soft. The punishment has been given, time to move on.

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Some might say you fail to recognise the fundamentals of discriminatory behaviours, but hey, they're only words, so there's no need for a response.

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Quote: shinymcshine "Some might say you fail to recognise the fundamentals of discriminatory behaviours, but hey, they're only words, so there's no need for a response.'"

Exactly

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Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
why is having your feelings hurt, worse than having a brick smashed on your head.? I would sooner have a few insults thrown at me, i can laugh those off, but a brick would certainly hurt me more. The world has gone soft. The punishment has been given, time to move on.'"



Yet you cannot move on because you keep coming back to it.
You know nothing about Savellios background. Maybe he was bullied and taunted for not being British or white enough when he was living in Warrington. Maybe he experienced that drip drip of racism every day. Maybe that is why words can be so damaging. How often did you get called whitey or white when you were growing up. Maybe that is why the idea of a few verbals mans little to you. Regardless of wether you like it racist attitudes are now less acceptable.

So go back to playing war games and pretending you are Monty. Oh and by the way stop buying into the Dunkirk was a victory it was a massive defeat.

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Quote: Durham Giant "Yet you cannot move on because you keep coming back to it.
You know nothing about Savellios background. Maybe he was bullied and taunted for not being British or white enough when he was living in Warrington. Maybe he experienced that drip drip of racism every day. Maybe that is why words can be so damaging. How often did you get called whitey or white friend when you were growing up. Maybe that is why the idea of a few verbals mans little to you. Regardless of wether you like it racist attitudes are now less acceptable.

So go back to playing war games and pretending you are Monty. Oh and by the way stop buying into the Dunkirk was a victory it was a massive defeat.'"

Yes it was, but those who came through it, such as my dad, didn’t just sit there and cry about it, they recovered and were more determined than ever to put things right. That’s one of the reasons today, you can post on forums such as this. I don’t have to play war games, better men than I do that for me, you, and all the Woke leftists who cry if anyone says boo. You and everyone else should be grateful for those who went through the horror of Dunkirk, and the war.

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Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Yes it was, but those who came through it, such as my dad, didn’t just sit there and cry about it, they recovered and were more determined than ever to put things right. That’s one of the reasons today, you can post on forums such as this. I don’t have to play war games, better men than I do that for me, you, and all the Woke leftists who cry if anyone says boo. You and everyone else should be grateful for those who went through the horror of Dunkirk, and the war.'"


So I guess your dad was one of those who voted Labour after the war for social change such as the NHS.

Funny how you think leftists cry if anyone says boo. Yet it was all those leftists fighting against Franco in Spain and the blackshirts on cable street whilst those you support now were busy supporting the fascists

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Quote: Durham Giant "So I guess your dad was one of those who voted Labour after the war for social change such as the NHS.

Funny how you think leftists cry if anyone says boo. Yet it was all those leftists fighting against Franco in Spain and the blackshirts on cable street whilst those you support now were busy supporting the fascists'"


Thread derailed.
I was threatened with a holiday for that.
Double standards mate.

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Quote: Cokey "Thread derailed.
I was threatened with a holiday for that.
Double standards mate.'"


Good point well made,
I apologise for that although not for challenging those apologists who are defending clubb

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Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Yes it was, but those who came through it, such as my dad, didn’t just sit there and cry about it, they recovered and were more determined than ever to put things right. That’s one of the reasons today, you can post on forums such as this. I don’t have to play war games, better men than I do that for me, you, and all the Woke leftists who cry if anyone says boo. You and everyone else should be grateful for those who went through the horror of Dunkirk, and the war.'"


“woke" is defined as: "Originally: well-informed, up-to-date.”

Does that mean the right aren’t well informed?

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Quote: Willzay "“woke" is defined as

I'm well informed.
It is best not to have a conscious bias or an unconscious bias.
Be a non-binary non-gender specific specimen who is able to be transracial.
Do not speak,even to friends or relations in case another person is offended.
If anyone is really naughty they don't get punished,anyway,because the bleeding hearts don't like the bad people being punished.
If I'm not well - informed it's because I wasn't taught correctly be the ever-changing guidelines made up by people being paid a fortune for continually changing the guidelines.
These are the over-privileged people who have attended universities and can't get proper jobs but just alter semantics to suit their prejudices,biased agenda.
We should all take lessons from the USA the experts on race relations.( I may not be serious here and I am in no way associated with Warrington )
Staying on thread - Maybe Clubb ain't completely in the wrong.
I am now off to study whether Polynesians are more of a persecuted minority than the white folk living in England.
I may be gone for some time.If a university or made up organisation with political motives,or one of those in the USA where one of the females acquires lots of mansions,I am available to take payment...

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I would also agree and well said sir

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Least we now know whose stuck in the 1950’s

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Dont talk stupid,we have a different opinion that is all.Might not suit yours then tough you will have to live with it as other people live with yours.

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Quote: Willzay "Least we now know whose stuck in the 1950’s'"


If you are referring to me,I'm sitting back while statues are being brought down because of a situation long before the 1950's.
I am learning that history is being re-written,and I am learning that some female,leading light of the BLM political activists lot,has now acquired a number of mansions,while many of her fellow USA citizens have the audacity to try and dictate to me how I should think and act.
I don't need to be told.
The slavery situation went on a long time prior to the 1950's.
With the deliberately divisive conduct of the current spokespeople, racial respect is many decades away.
So much for universities,and education,education,education,Mr Blair.
https://mobile.twitter.com/tophertownmu ... 9974553607

Staying on thread - I am sick of so-called adult behaviour.The opportunity for a so-called re-set has been lost.
It gets worse as it goes on.
Sport supposed to take me away from the harsh realities of life.
Having Americans, and academics, dictate from their ivory towers does my plucker in.
I would be grateful if rugby league players could conduct themselves a lot better.
Quote: Willzay "Least we now know whose stuck in the 1950’s'"


If you are referring to me,I'm sitting back while statues are being brought down because of a situation long before the 1950's.
I am learning that history is being re-written,and I am learning that some female,leading light of the BLM political activists lot,has now acquired a number of mansions,while many of her fellow USA citizens have the audacity to try and dictate to me how I should think and act.
I don't need to be told.
The slavery situation went on a long time prior to the 1950's.
With the deliberately divisive conduct of the current spokespeople, racial respect is many decades away.
So much for universities,and education,education,education,Mr Blair.
https://mobile.twitter.com/tophertownmu ... 9974553607

Staying on thread - I am sick of so-called adult behaviour.The opportunity for a so-called re-set has been lost.
It gets worse as it goes on.
Sport supposed to take me away from the harsh realities of life.
Having Americans, and academics, dictate from their ivory towers does my plucker in.
I would be grateful if rugby league players could conduct themselves a lot better.


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St.Helens-Warrington
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Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
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Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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