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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "Corbyn - against the Falklands war, against the Gulf war, against the Afghanistan war, against the Iraq war, against involvement in Syria.

Right wingers - he's a warmonger.'"


Supporting the IRA, against the Falklands - yes a person not interested in defending the citizens of this country

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Quote: Willzay "Nice of you to use the deaths of millions for the butt of your joke. Troll.'"


So I’m a troll because the Labour Party lied under oath which lead to millions of innocent people in the Middle East dying?

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Quote: Steph Curry "So I’m a troll because the Labour Party lied under oath which lead to millions of innocent people in the Middle East dying?'"


Strangely enough 100% of Tory MPs voted in favour of the war whereas only 75% of Labour MPs did the same.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "Supporting the IRA, against the Falklands - yes a person not interested in defending the citizens of this country'"

Ah yes, another right wing trope. The murderers on your side are patriots, the other lot are terrorists.

Falklands I probably disagree with him on but the British reaction remains questionable when they effectively invited Argentina in in the first place.

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Quote: Steph Curry "So I’m a troll because the Labour Party lied under oath which lead to millions of innocent people in the Middle East dying?'"


You are since you find people dying hilarious. Let’s be real you don’t give a damn about the Middle East.

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Quote: Willzay "You are since you find people dying hilarious. Let’s be real you don’t give a damn about the Middle East.'"

Just like ZZB doesn't really care about the EU being "protectionist" and New Tories don't really care about the deficit. It's all about owning the libs and seeing their team win. Actual policy or results are almost irrelevant against the right wing's obsession with identity politics and their mythical culture wars. And flags, lots and lots and lots of beautiful flags.

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "Just like ZZB doesn't really care about the EU being "protectionist" and New Tories don't really care about the deficit. It's all about owning the libs and seeing their team win. Actual policy or results are almost irrelevant against the right wing's obsession with identity politics and their mythical culture wars. And flags, lots and lots and lots of beautiful flags.'"


Aye, but ZZB it is sincere and you can have a conversation at least.

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Quote: Willzay "You are since you find people dying hilarious. Let’s be real you don’t give a damn about the Middle East.'"


Please. Tell me where I said it was hilarious. I think it’s absolutely disgusting that a political party can lie about something that leads to millions of innocents dying.

But sure, continue to lie about me to try and make me look bad

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Quote: Steph Curry "

I think it’s absolutely disgusting that a political party can lie about something that leads to millions of innocents dying.
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Which side of that argument would you say the Iraqi people were on at the time? icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Superblue "Which side of that argument would you say the Iraqi people were on at the time?
Both! A deeply divided and complex country then and now.

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Quote: Superblue "Which side of that argument would you say the Iraqi people were on at the time?
I’m sure they were loving it that Labour lied through their teeth under oath, which caused the deaths of millions of non English people.

I use the term non English because Labour supporters seem fine that their party caused the deaths of millions of people from the Middle East but are in uproar about the deaths in England due to Covid.

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We have been a major arms supplier to all sort of regimes over many decades and still are. What is your view on Yemen or don’t they count because it is only the weapons and expertise we supply which has resulted in the death of many civilians.
We intend to trade with any country regardless of their human rights record what do you think of that. I would not be surprised if we are all over China for a trade deal don’t you.

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Quote: Superblue "Which side of that argument would you say the Iraqi people were on at the time?
Depends whether they were a Sunni or a Shiite? They have only be fighting each other for 12,000 years - why did we think Sadaam would become a threat to world order - seriously?

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "We have been a major arms supplier to all sort of regimes over many decades and still are. What is your view on Yemen or don’t they count because it is only the weapons and expertise we supply which has resulted in the death of many civilians.
We intend to trade with any country regardless of their human rights record what do you think of that. I would not be surprised if we are all over China for a trade deal don’t you.'"


Every civilised economy in the world wants to do a deal with China - if you didn't want to do trade deals with countries that abuse their citizens you would be pretty limited in who you could trade with. Any Muslim country would be out of the question, most of Africa the same, does the Caste system in India fall into that? Russia - where is left?

We supply weapons to virtually every country in the world - are you suggesting we cease doing this because some despots use them to maintain order/control?

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "if you didn't want to do trade deals with countries that abuse their citizens you would be pretty limited in who you could trade with. Any Muslim country would be out of the question'"

Just leaving that there. icon_rolleyes.gif

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