Out of interest when did teachers ever stop working

Just checking you're still pretending to be outraged when party leaders lie in the House of Commons.
Would be terrible if you were exposed as a mindless troll.

Given that children were getting a fraction of the study time they would normally get and we still had the same number of teacher you don't have to be Einstein to figure out a big chunk weren't contributing much.

Nah. I’ve just chosen not to debate with someone who has to resort to insults.

Again, when did teachers stop working ??

If they weren't teaching then I would suggest they weren't working - maybe you class laying in the garden drinking pina coladas in the early Summer sun as working - I don't.

The kids could easily have sat their exams in 2020 - the teachers and their unions didn't seem to keen to facilitate that - I wonder why?

Kids were getting a fraction of their normal education - so as we had the same number of teacher delivering significantly less teaching what were the majority of the teachers doing?

Getting paid and working are two very different concepts

Who was running the on line lessons, both in terms of prep and the actual zoom lessons etc ??

I fully accept that not all kids could access them but, once again, you find it easier to slur the teaching profession (ala The Daily Mail) than give any support to the teaching profession.
Also, you are aware that vulnerable children and those of key workers did attend school.
Again, who was teaching/supporting them.

Your whole narrative is so stereotypically right wing, it beggars belief.

Mind you, we've gone from clapping the nurses etc, to kicking them (again) so, it really is no surprise.

Certainly the few teachers that I know HAVE been WORKING but, dont let that spoil your opinion.

It's the voice of someone who has never had to work in a criminally underfunded public sector but absolutely believes the lies they read in the hard-right press.

As with people in all sectors you will have lazy and harder-working people, some who short-cut and some who are utterly dedicated and diligent. I've seen plenty of all types working for me in the private sector. For some reason ZZB can't get past some weird belief that people in the public sector are totally different to all other human beings - indeed as with much right wing media venom, dehumanising people is core to their toxic rhetoric.

The difference is that in the private sector those that don't pull their weight usually get found and moved on - seldom a job for life - not many non-jobs in the private sector - I bet virtually every public body including councils will have them.. Even ACAS will admit waste through absenteeism is way higher in the public sector - perhaps if these organisations were leaner their funding would stretch further?

I am not disputing there are fantastic people working in the public sector - we can all recall a teacher/lecturer who has had a profound impact on their personal development but why do we think the public sector should be treated differently in terms of remuneration than the private sector that in reality funds it?

You sir are cluess with regards to this, the whole lockdown has thrown a curveball to just about every sector, both public and private - people having to adapt differently- teachers

- Having planned teaching structures completely blown apart
-Re-planning for new structures but this changing sometimes daily
-Teaching pupils in school
-Having to try to teach the same lesson as the above online, or even over the phone where pupils don’t have the online facility
- Counselling pupils who are struggling with adapting/getting behind etc
-Currently planning for pupils to be in school - then due to one failing a test the whole class/ year having to isolate, so therefore having to completely arrange that learning back to an online facility within an hour

How many businesses have worked their nuts off over the last 12 months or so, but not achieved the same results as previous years - it’s the same principle with teaching, indeed probably putting more effort in than previously just to keep their heads above water

As I say your clueless, not just on this subject but your recent comments appear to have no concept of current reality

I agree, it shouldn't. So the repeated discrepancies in public vs private pay rises (public being repeatedly lower for the avoidance of doubt) since 2010 should be addressed rather than perpetuated.

Teachers are no different to most commercial environments - change was needed and quick.

Your opinion is valid but the schools had plenty of time to prepare there are plenty of on-line platforms to copy - most professional study is now done on line.

If all these kids are working to the same curriculum then surely you only need one version of the lesson that could have been put out on a dedicated BBC channel and the teachers could have then concentrated on supporting the children - not rocket science is it? How is that private schools were up and running almost instantly but state schools couldn't get their act together?

On line teaching is not a new concept - it really isn't - flipping from classroom to on line should be a very simply process.

Loads of businesses have adapted very quickly to a change in circumstances - my wife works a major PLC they have been working from home for over a year that's 60,000 people - it can be done it is just having the desire and skill set to achieve it. How many Zoom meetings have you done - I have done hundreds you have simply just got to make it happen.

These kids are the future - sadly they have been let down by a group of adults who simply didn't react positively enough

I would suggest the majority of workers in the private sector didn't see much of an increase from 2010 - minimum wage apart which is the same in the public sector - as you well know.

The statistics of wage increases prove otherwise.