rlquite a lot, actually.rl

if you take of those red tinted spectacles for a while.

Reduced the deficit (until Covid came along at least)
Record Public Sector investment
Delivering the will of the electorate by leaving the EU
Protecting our defence capability

and that is just in the early years, after Labour plunged us into recession.


they haven't engaged in illegal war, sold our economy down the river...

a damn sight more than Labour ever achieved.

So that's a NO then,
We can read the papers, listen to the news to see what has happened, which was exactly why I began the thread
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I've clearly shown my opinion and I asked YOU for YOURS but, you dont have on or, maybe are unwilling to share it.
That's how debate works, an exchange of information or opinion.

So, do you agree that they made a balls of things or did they get it right.
Come on, tea or coffee question, lets see if YOU can answer.

Come on pal, that's 2 simple chances to answer a simple question
At least we know for sure that you have no opinion.

You cant say that I didn't try to engage but, even a question with only 2 answers seems beyond you

No answer is still no answer, if you cannot defend the government’s actions with regards handling the pandemic and education we must presume your sole purpose is to just disrupt the thread. We gave you several opportunities to tell us why their actions were acceptable but chose or could not do so.

Cant see the NHS on your list...........................
Maybe that wasn't started by the Tories

As per IR80s request, I have taken off my red tinted spectacles for a while and this is what I’ve found in response to his claims of Tory successesReduced the deficit (until Covid came along at least) – partially true
• The national deficit before the 2008 crash was 3% of GDP it then rose to 10% in 2009/10. In Feb 2020 it was back to 2.7% of GDP – and as you say Covid will no doubt cause it to rise again. So, Labour fell foul of an International banking crash, the Tories are falling foul of an International pandemic.

Record Public Sector investment - wrong
• Public sector net investment was 3% of GDP in 2009. It then dropped to around 2% during the austerity years. It is projected to increase back up to 3% by 2023.

Delivering the will of the electorate by leaving the EU - wrong
• In 2016 52% of the electorate voted in favour of an undefined Brexit. In 2019 43% of the electorate voted in favour of the Brexit as set out in the Tory manifesto.
• The latest opinion polls show that 50% believe that leaving the EU was a mistake and only 36% believe it to have been the right decision

Protecting our defence capability - wrong
• Defence spending in 2020 is about 2.2% of GDP, a figure which has remained the around same since at least 2000.
• Cummings, (who spent some time in Russia) however is visiting key MOD sites prior to a defence review later this year, He has refused to appear in front of the Defence select Committee to explain what he is doing.

I dont think you can say what Labour would have done, while they are in opposition ,all of this falls on Boris' shoulders.
The point here is that the party in charge have abjectly failed, on every aspect of the exam debacle.

I do agree that many exams could and should have taken place but, you can add that to the list of failings.

Where is Boris anyway.
Things are getting difficult again and he's gone AWOL.

This is probably one of the strangest statements you have made. I and neither do you know what would have happened under a Labour government, you can of course surmise based on your Union bias. The problem is that the Conservatives are in charge and what they did despite the usual warnings caused a lot of confusion and hurt to students before resorting to what you believe would be the stance taken by Labour.
I suppose they made this decision not to support their union enemies but because it was the obvious outcome following their many failures. It is possible that a Labour government would have seen the problems coming several weeks ago and done things differently, they could not have done it worse.

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Hmmm,think maybe you can.
The Welsh Assembly is Labour controlled,but they went along with the same method.
As did the SNP controlled and UUP controlled assemblies of Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Seems to me all the parties got this one wrong.

Labour were calling for this outcome all along - so you know exactly what Labour would have done - what did Labour do in Wales?

Kirsty William's, the Welsh Education Minister, is a Liberal Democrat.

Sorry Sal but, you are totally wrong.
There was a sequence of events that got us up to this point, right from virus arriving in the UK and through lockdown, school closures etc, etc.
Had Labour been at the helm, do you believe they would have taken exactly the same route ??
Some things they may have handled better and others, no doubt, worse.

However, the current mess falls firmly at the feet of Bojo.
His decisions, his style of leadership and of course him backing the beleaguered Education Minister.
To try and say things "would have been the same" is just plain daft and is just making excuses for this excuse of a government.
Bojo has everyone in his party nodding along, too afraid to question anything for fear of being booted into the long grass.

Also, you will perhaps recall me suggesting that blame for the handling of the covid crisis would e planted at the door of Public Health England, an organisation which has now been replaced.
How very convenient and responsibility for the mess now put at someone else's door. Spineless and two faced, lets see what happens next.