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What do you think BMW are going to do if the import tariffs from Europe hit sales?

They will simply open factories here - we have demonstrated that when it comes to vehicle manufacture the UK is as good as it gets.

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Quote: Dally "We have a strong services sector which exports.'"


What services are you talking about ??
It's to be hoped you aren't wanting to rely on the financial services sector, which currently makes a fortune from being the clearing bank for the EU. Like they will want that to carry on d040.gif

The Germans will be rubbing their hands at the thought of this work moving over to the EU

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Quote: wrencat1873 "What services are you talking about ??
It's to be hoped you aren't wanting to rely on the financial services sector, which currently makes a fortune from being the clearing bank for the EU. Like they will want that to carry on
I am confused this is the 5/6th biggest economy in the world but according to some on here it doesn't manufacture anything, it has no research capability, it has very limited financial services so what does it have to get to the size it is?

The financial centre in London deals with much more than just clearing for Europe - let's face e are not going to export our own clearing are we?

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Yes if the UK was the only country you could work - these top people can work anywhere in the world. To think if you put a cap here they would all just stay is naive in the extreme.'"

Except most UK plc have boards made up of a few public school educated Brits. Most would not go elsewhere as they would have to demostrate capability.

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Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "So what you are saying is, if Brexit costs lots of people their jobs and homes, its ok because it may get better for the country in 7 years time? Why do you think such a melodramatic outcome is likely? We managed over 900 years as an independent country not within the EU. Why the panic?

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I'll vote conservative. I'm pretty lukewarm about Theresa May and indeed my local MP but the alternatives are not credible.

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Quote: Ajw71 "I'll vote conservative. I'm pretty lukewarm about Theresa May and indeed my local MP but the alternatives are not credible.'"

And May is?

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Quote: Dally "Why do you think such a melodramatic outcome is likely? We managed over 900 years as an independent country not within the EU. Why the panic?'"



There are lots of people whose jobs depend on the EU. When that goes and if they can't get an equivalent job then that is what will happen. Saying we were fine before the EU is just a typical bury your head in the sand and hope for the best attitude. Or are you the 'I'm alright Jack so sod everyone else' type of person?

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Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "There are lots of people whose jobs depend on the EU. When that goes and if they can't get an equivalent job then that is what will happen. Saying we were fine before the EU is just a typical bury your head in the sand and hope for the best attitude. Or are you the 'I'm alright Jack so sod everyone else' type of person?'"

The country has more people e,played than ever before

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Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "There are lots of people whose jobs depend on the EU. When that goes and if they can't get an equivalent job then that is what will happen. Saying we were fine before the EU is just a typical bury your head in the sand and hope for the best attitude. Or are you the 'I'm alright Jack so sod everyone else' type of person?'"

The country has more people employed than ever before
and 700,000 vacancies. Not sure there is reason to worry too much. Not all jobs (if any) that 'depend' on EU will go. Depends on what is negotiated and how individual businesses react. We were told by the BBC and former Chancellor that the wheels would drop off big time just on the outcome of vote itself. They did not. There are much bigger threats to the economy than being out or in EU. It is a side-show.

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Quote: Dally "Why do you think such a melodramatic outcome is likely? We managed over 900 years as an independent country not within the EU. Why the panic?'"


The thing is that, we were doing somewhat better than "managing" within the EU and regardless of anyone's views on Brexit, we have voted for "the unknown".

Of course, life goes on and it wont be the end of the world but, IF things are worse on the "outside" and/or, we have another recession, what was the point ?
Was it to be captain of the Titanic ?, all of the passengers on there, set off on a journey of discovery, on an unsinkable ship.

Ultimately the decision, voted for by a small majority (of those who could be bothered to vote) was brought about by a few disaffected right wing politicians.

Lets just hope they were right and not just on some kind of power trip.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "The thing is that, we were doing somewhat better than "managing" within the EU and regardless of anyone's views on Brexit, we have voted for "the unknown".

Of course, life goes on and it wont be the end of the world but, IF things are worse on the "outside" and/or, we have another recession, what was the point ?
Was it to be captain of the Titanic ?, all of the passengers on there, set off on a journey of discovery, on an unsinkable ship.

Ultimately the decision, voted for by a small majority (of those who could be bothered to vote) was brought about by a few disaffected right wing politicians.

Lets just hope they were right and not just on some kind of power trip.'"

What if we are better off out? Why is that so unlikely? A large part of this country's success derived from our legal system, which is being eroded by EU membership. I ask you - if you think the USA would have become so rich and powerful if it had gone the French way rather than the British a few hundred years ago. What about Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong?

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The election just got more interesting, the right wing press - Sun, Mail, etc laying into May saying she'll increase foreign aid, stop pensions increasing, tax the middle class, etc. I suppose they're trying to force her hand on policy but surely she can't do yet another U-turn and be considered a credible leader. Corbyn should get up North and S otland on the stump and on social media. He could win yet.

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May has called the election mainly because she will win it. She as most people agree ,know that once brexit negotiations start things will become extremely unpleasant. So she has the luxury of five years to weather the storm.
It would be ironic if she won the election with a similar majority as she enjoys at the moment. It strikes me somewhat strange that she is being criticised for brexit as a Tory ,when it's the country as a whole that's instigated brexit.
I still think leaving the EU will be a disaster, Farrage, Johnson , Liam fox plus gove and several others must be hopeful that things go well. If things go pear shape the public and the popular press will absolutely tear into them.

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We have 23 months left to negotiate leaving the European union, and she's decided to waste 2 of those months on an election when the Tories are already in power. To me, it shows that May and the rest couldn't give a toss about the people they're meant to serve.
It's been a shambles from the government so far. All they've done is reel out the soundbite about 'strong and stable leadership' (although, they've created a 5hit load of instability by calling this election), but they've not done much talking on policy,

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