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Quote: Sheldon "Just gonna grab me pad and pen and nip to Paris. Mr Hollandaise a few questions.

1. Who did it?
2. Bull you did it you friend! Admit it? Please?
3. No I'm not qualified not trained in this type of questioning or research, admit it you did it!!
4. I'm just gonna look at meme's and coincidence on the internet until I find what agrees with my opinion. Admit you did it!! I take by your baffled expression an expression of guilt. Case closed. I SAID CASE CLOSED!'"


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Quote: Mugwump "Leaving all other questions aside - what you are saying here is that "top medical professionals" agree that an explosive blast may or may not cauterise an amputated limb and stem the flow of blood.

With this kind of conviction who needs ambiguity, eh?


As per usual in both responses you resort to your usual trick of twisting people's words and attempting to make them look stupid. This is always your usual tact, however I wont fall for it.

Let's deal with your first post. So you admit you aren't innocent, yet still go on to get on your moral crusade against people to say it's disgusting. Which leads me to question, if you think it's disgusting, then why say it? And now you have, how can you possibly criticise others?

Now, onto your second point. It is acknowledged by medical professionals that this happens, it is the reason that when this event sadly happens to Soldiers that they don't bleed to death straight away. This is a logical explanation for why there wasn't much blood on the double amputee at the Boston Bombing. It is based on sound medical theory and provides a reason as to why this happened. It is much more reliable than a howl at the moon lunatic giving this as a reason as to why the Bombings were faked. Still, maybe we would all be better using your "This gives me cause to believe" or "Which leads me to think" Much more reliable aren't they! icon_eek.gif

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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "Research,, research, research. why do people post drivel before looking at the overwhelming synchronised evidence which ALL false flagged terrorist events carry the same DNA with the same modus operandi. It’s so blatantly obvious they’re planned and so coincidental in their making. Here’s a series of terrorist attacks that took place AT THE SAME TIME and IN THE SAME WAY as official "drills" were being conducted by governmental institutions or companies affiliated to the government.

During the 9/11 attacks, the US Air Force, NORAD was conducting a "simulation" where terrorists hijackers had taken over passenger jets in order to fly them into buildings. Also, for several years prior to the 9/11 events, the U.S. defence agency conducted drills using REAL AIRCRAFT simulating terrorist attacks crashing jets into buildings, including the twin towers and the Pentagon. On the morning of 9/11, 5 war games and terror drills were being conducted by several U.S. defence agencies, including one live fly exercise using REAL planes. Drills also apparently included the injection of false radar blips onto the screens of air traffic controllers.

Simulations of a terrorist attack were also undergoing in 2005 in London 7/7 , when the actual attacks took place

The only drivel here is from yourself. Do you really believe the people involved would go to such lengths to advance a cause, and then make it so easy for people like yourself to discover it wasn't genuine!? Get real!

Just one example of an attempt to prove a hoax that is easily resolved. You claim Sandy Hook was a hoax because they ran a needs for children in disaster course on the same day and it's too much of a coincidence. The course is actually called Planning for the needs of children in disasters and was ran on at least six occasions across the state through November and December. Seems it was more a planned scheme and not a one off event to help facilitate a hoax!

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Quote: JLM32 "As per usual in both responses you resort to your usual trick of twisting people's words and attempting to make them look stupid. This is always your usual tact, however I wont fall for it. '"


People really don't need any help from me to look stupid.

Quote: JLM32 "Let's deal with your first post. So you admit you aren't innocent, yet still go on to get on your moral crusade against people to say it's disgusting. Which leads me to question, if you think it's disgusting, then why say it? And now you have, how can you possibly criticise others?'"


You really are struggling here. A [isingle post[/i now amounts to a "moral crusade"? Heaven forbid I should get serious for a moment - you'll be accusing me of moral genocide!

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Quote: Mugwump "People really don't need any help from me to look stupid.

You really are struggling here. A [isingle post[/i now amounts to a "moral crusade"? Heaven forbid I should get serious for a moment - you'll be accusing me of moral genocide!


Again, you resort to insult and silly little emoticons to try and get a point across. Your point has no relevance to the issue. You have told people they are disgusting, yet were quite happy to do it yourself. I notice you, yourself avoid my question if it is so disgusting then why did you say it? And how can you condemn others?

I haven't once said that all Medical professionals agree this is the case no, there is no evidence for this. What there is however, is a perfectly sound explanation as to why there would be little to no blood in cases like this. It is much more likely than some howl at the moon conspiracy theorist claiming that this is cast iron proof for a fake, without any reference to medical knowledge.

What's particularly interesting is that you make absolutely no mention of my second point, that shock would also cause vessels to constrict and reduce blood flow. Is this because you are aware it is scientific fact and so gives you no space to twist my words and attempt to belittle me?

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Quote: JLM32 "Again, you resort to insult and silly little emoticons to try and get a point across. Your point has no relevance to the issue. You have told people they are disgusting, yet were quite happy to do it yourself. I notice you, yourself avoid my question if it is so disgusting then why did you say it? And how can you condemn others?'"


This is like saying St. Paul (if you believe in such nonsense) couldn't possibly become an apostle because he was once a tax collector. Or that Gandhi couldn't condemn western capitalism because of the fact that he was once a fully paid-up servant of the cause.

As stated - if I said such a thousand times - it wouldn't make the complaint any less valid.

Quote: JLM32 "I haven't once said that all Medical professionals agree this is the case no, there is no evidence for this. What there is however, is a perfectly sound explanation as to why there would be little to no blood in cases like this. It is much more likely than some howl at the moon conspiracy theorist claiming that this is cast iron proof for a fake, without any reference to medical knowledge.

What's particularly interesting is that you make absolutely no mention of my second point, that shock would also cause vessels to constrict and reduce blood flow. Is this because you are aware it is scientific fact and so gives you no space to twist my words and attempt to belittle me?'"


You're belittling yourself and really don't need any help from me. Your own expert testimony (sources?) states that blood flow may or may not cease. Even without knowing a great deal about the case in question this statement in no way disproves the argument you are attempting to poke fun at. So what was the pointing of posting it in the first place? The debate (which no one was having anyway) has advanced precisely nowhere.

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Quote: Mugwump "This is like saying St. Paul (if you believe in such nonsense) couldn't possibly become an apostle because he was once a tax collector. Or that Gandhi couldn't condemn western capitalism because of the fact that he was once a fully paid-up servant of the cause.

As stated - if I said such a thousand times - it wouldn't make the complaint any less valid.

You're belittling yourself and really don't need any help from me. Your own expert testimony (sources?) states that blood flow may or may not cease. Even without knowing a great deal about the case in question this statement in no way disproves the argument you are attempting to poke fun at. So what was the pointing of posting it in the first place? The debate (which no one was having anyway) has advanced precisely nowhere.'"


Wow! Where to start! So you try and say I'm making myself look stupid by not providing a percentage and then your 1st example is something that may or may not have happened. Bravo!

You see, there's the thing though. Nobody did complain, so you are doing precisely what you are saying I am. Arguing a point that no one has raised. The only facts we do have, are that you are condemning what people has said asked disgusting, but saw absolutely no problem in doing it yourself.

Again, You do your usual trick. Taking half of a post and then attempting to twist it to suit your needs. You keep harping back to Traumatic amputation, yet have STILL Failed to answer the fact that I have also mentioned that shock causes Blood vessels to constrict and so would reduce blood flow, thus leading to not much blood being present. You state no one was having a debate, I've seen the Boston Bombing mentioned on here a number of times as a hoax. The example I have given is one reason used by your fellow lunatics to explain this, I was using this to show that the alleged hoaxes and their reasons can be disproved fairly easily.

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Now you're just boring me. This conversation really is going nowhere and I have better things to do.

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "... I can can tell you from experience (Of serving in the army) that the explosion in Boston was little more than a large thunderflash.
Firstly it was impossible for the injuries that were shown to have happened from this so called 'bomb', the collateral damage was completely and utterly disproportionate to the injuries shown (as in the collateral damage represented exactly what a thundeflash might do), additionally the injuries were massively inconsistant with the alleged type of device and even then those with these so called devastating injuries showed no other signs of the effects anywhere else on their bodies, none of them...not one! ...'"


It is rare that I would link to the Daily Wail, but as a potted account of some injury evidence in the case, and many other details, including images of the tragic 8 year old Martin Richard, this is compelling. Read what is in these links. If you like, find other reports of the inquests, trial etc and the reams of evidence presented.

Dr David King, a veteran military combat surgeon, took the stand on Thursday during the death-penalty phase of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's trial in Boston.
Dr King said the little boy was gravely injured in the blasts and didn't die instantly, suffering terribly before he bled to death on the street on April 15, 2013.'"


Here is another article. It shows images of a rescuer applying a tourniquet to the little girl's leg and the same part of the incident is also on video.

Another article
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'Cause of death was blast injuries to torso and extremities,' Dr Nields said, adding that Martin died primarily from loss of blood.
Shrapnel - including small nails, plastic, pellets and wood - from one of the homemade pressure cooker bombs set off by Tsarnaev and his older brother had punched through the boy's 69-pound body.
He suffered a six-inch-by-six-inch wound to his left abdomen, which exposed his intestines, and caused damage to his liver, left kidney, spleen and two ribs, Dr. Nields said.
'There was also a perforation of his lower spine,' Dr Nields said, indicating that shrapnel had passed through the child's body and exited through his back'"

It is hardly just the Mail. There was acres of coverage across the world's media and none of it is inconsistent for the simple reason that it all shows the identical event from many different places, angles and times.

If you want to believe that there was no bomb, and so these injuries didn't happen, then I just feel terribly sorry for you. I would recommend you go pay a visit to the Richard family. It may comfort them to know that in fact there was no bomb.

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Quote: Mugwump "Now you're just boring me. This conversation really is going nowhere and I have better things to do.'"


So much better to do that you still have time to respond. If you say so! Funny, I've seen you post this many times before to people and it's always when you can't answer something.

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Quote: JLM32 "The only drivel here is from yourself. Do you really believe the people involved would go to such lengths to advance a cause, and then make it so easy for people like yourself to discover it wasn't genuine!? Get real! '"


Yes i certainly do..And You know what. I could provide 10 tonnes of proof in front of people like you, and if you're not ready to accept an idea, they will never accept the proof. No amount of evidence will suffice to prove anything, it is the jury that will decide, and you are the jury. So there you go, I pity your judgement.

This is no conspiracy theory. This is FACT right from the horse's mouth.



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Quote: FLAT STANLEY "Yes i certainly do..And You know what. I could provide 10 tonnes of proof in front of people like you, and if you're not ready to accept an idea, they will never accept the proof. No amount of evidence will suffice to prove anything, it is the jury that will decide, and you are the jury. So there you go, I pity your judgement.

This is no conspiracy theory. This is FACT right from the horse's mouth.

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Oh no! How embarrassing! You tell me I haven't done enough research then you bring up a quote that was made up!

Watch the video, what he actually said was "The present window of opportunity which during a truly peaceful and interdependent might be built will not be open for too long. Already there are powerful forces at work that threaten to destroy all of our hopes and efforts."

Can I suggest that you actually start to do your research on normal websites and not the daily crackpot?

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In the days when there were myriad independent television news channels and newspaper owners it was practically impossible to hide major conspiracies (although like today most people tended to gravitate toward a very small number). But in the US right now there are now maybe four - possibly five television operators. And we all know how print media has been practically wiped out. The same has happened throughout the globe.

There's a very good book which has just been released by David Talbot called rlThe Devil's Chessboardrl in which he discusses the life of the Dulles twins - Allan & John Foster who went on to become the head of the Central Intelligence Agency and the US State Department.

Anyone who doesn't believe that the media is little more than a tool for the Deep State should really take the time to read it. One of the chapters deals extensively with Operation Mockingbird - which essentially boiled down to placing hundreds of agents within newspapers and television channels whose job it was to control the flow of information fed to the public. Dulles even had a name for it - "The Mighty Wurlitzer". Given that Dulles openly admitted he modelled the CIA on MI5/6 during the days of William Stephenson (who Churchill codenamed "Intrepid"icon_wink.gif I think it's very unlikely the same does not function today.

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Just out of interest (I've been driving home) - have we now proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the lack of blood (or is it the profusion - I get confused?) emitting from some unknown leg wound (was a tourniquet applied - oh I forgot, we don't need those any more because shock will stem the flow before the patient bleeds out from an open femoral artery? icon_lol.gif ) proves that nothing untoward happened in Boston?

Seriously, you can't make this stuff up!

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Isn't there a crack pot thread for this type of rubbish?
My thoughts are with all those affected

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Wigan-Salford
Fri 20th Sep
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England M-Samoa M
Sun 15th Sep
WSL2024 14 FeatherstoneW6-32York V
WSL2024 14 Hudds W36-0Wire W
CH 26 Barrow34-14Whitehaven
CH 26 Bradford16-14Batley
CH 26 Dewsbury16-28Swinton
CH 26 Doncaster30-14Widnes
CH 26 Featherstone6-20Sheffield
CH 26 Wakefield20-4York
NRL 28 Canterbury22-24Manly
L1 23 Midlands24-22Workington
L1 23 Rochdale30-18Hunslet
Sat 14th Sep
SL 26 Hull FC4-58Salford
SL 26 Catalans12-8LondonB
SL 26 Huddersfield0-66Warrington
CH 26 Toulouse38-18Halifax
NRL 28 Melbourne37-10Cronulla
NRL 28 NQL Cowboys28-16Newcastle
Fri 13th Sep
SL 26 Leigh0-24Hull KR
SL 26 St.Helens40-4Castleford
SL 26 Wigan38-0Leeds
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 26 657 336 321 42
Hull KR 26 693 311 382 40
Warrington 26 684 319 365 38
Salford 26 550 483 67 32
St.Helens 26 584 370 214 30
Leigh 26 548 386 162 29
 
Leeds 26 514 462 52 28
Catalans 26 451 423 28 28
Huddersfield 26 434 648 -214 18
Castleford 26 415 701 -286 15
LondonB 26 317 862 -545 6
Hull FC 26 324 870 -546 6
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Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 24 892 256 636 46
Bradford 24 618 373 245 32
Toulouse 23 662 340 322 31
Sheffield 24 594 472 122 28
Widnes 24 513 433 80 27
York 25 613 439 174 26
 
Featherstone 24 566 472 94 26
Doncaster 24 470 527 -57 23
Batley 24 378 513 -135 20
Halifax 24 475 617 -142 20
Barrow 23 418 648 -230 19
Swinton 24 446 606 -160 18
Whitehaven 24 414 806 -392 16
Dewsbury 25 308 821 -513 2
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