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Quote: El Barbudo " do you really believe that poor people paying more tax than rich people is fair?'"


No, I don't, but it's legal, and Labour did nothing about it.

nor do I agree with a lot of other things this government is HAVING to do because of the storm Blurgh and Brownose left behind, but it is necessary.

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Quote: Standee "I can tell you one thing Kosh, you're a lefty booty who wants everyone else to pay for you and yours to do as you please.'"

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Oh dear. Is that really the best you can come up with? It does reveal your core values though - feck everyone else as long as I'm OK. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Standee "No, I don't, but it's legal, and Labour did nothing about it.

nor do I agree with a lot of other things this government is HAVING to do because of the poop storm Blurgh and Brownose left behind, but it is necessary.'"

They've gone way beyond what's necessary.

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Quote: Kosh "icon_lol.gif

Oh dear. Is that really the best you can come up with? It does reveal your core values though - feck everyone else as long as I'm OK.
You decided to have kids, not me, nor anyone else, so why should I pay for them?

laugh all you like, I know I am right, it's a sad man that has a family and then expects everyone else to look after them, h/s are the only creatures on the planet that expect such indulgence from their species.

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Quote: Standee "there are way more people who frequent this board that are envious of people who have achieved more than they have, who point to them having more opportunity.

Sin Bin has become a mouthpiece for the left, you only need look to the moderators/admin to see this is so, there is no balance, but maybe that reflects rugby fans in general, working class, little or no aspiration beyond making ends meet and a fortnight in benidorm as a holiday.

it's a sad reflection of british society, people would rather punish the successful than strive themselves.'"

Wow. That surpasses even the best of your bollox. icon_eek.gif

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Quote: WIZEB "Wow. That surpasses even the best of your bollox.
what a surprise, the lefty old git from the coast doesn't agree

maybe you can tell us how wistfully better it was in your time?

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I didn't realise Standee paid for Kosh's kids. That's very generous of him.

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Quote: Standee "You decided to have kids, not me, nor anyone else, so why should I pay for them?

laugh all you like, I know I am right, it's a sad man that has a family and then expects everyone else to look after them, h/s are the only creatures on the planet that expect such indulgence from their species.'"

I'm not quite sure why you feel any of this is relevant, but anyway...

I pay for my kids. I also pay for other people's kids. I [ialso[/i pay for lots of things I don't use, most of which are available to folk with or without kids. Unlike you I don't begrudge this, despite being in an income bracket where I receive feck-all from the state without being well-off enough to have cash to burn.

What I believe in is a society that works together for the benefit of all. Having an educated population is a key part of making a modern society function so it follows that I feel that education should be free. I'd feel the same regardless of whether I had kids or not or what level of education they might attain. I'd also point out that recent research shows that the state receives significantly more cash from graduates over their working lifetime than it costs to educate them, so it's a net gain for everyone.

To get back on topic, maybe if all the rich wasters and corporations who currently avoid taxation at every available (legal) opportunity actually paid their fair share we'd be able to afford a 1st class free education system.

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Quote: Rock God X "I didn't realise Standee paid for Kosh's kids. That's very generous of him.'"

He's often late with the cheques, mind. Forgets to put stamps on the envelopes as well.

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Quote: Big Graeme "What part of "as it stands" did you miss?'"


As I said, it's a matter of interpretation. It may currently be illegal. The fact that the promoters have will almost certainly have taken legal opinion that it is legal does not mean that it is.

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Quote: Standee "what a surprise, the lefty old git from the coast doesn't agree

maybe you can tell us how wistfully better it was in your time?'"

Hardly a pensioner at 45 STANDEE. It wasn't any better mate. I left school under a Thatcher government who were ideologically trying to feck the fabric of our society. Fast forward and deja vu!

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Quote: Kosh "I'm not quite sure why you feel any of this is relevant, but anyway...

I pay for my kids. I also pay for other people's kids. I [ialso[/i pay for lots of things I don't use, most of which are available to folk with or without kids. Unlike you I don't begrudge this, despite being in an income bracket where I receive feck-all from the state without being well-off enough to have cash to burn.

What I believe in is a society that works together for the benefit of all. Having an educated population is a key part of making a modern society function so it follows that I feel that education should be free. I'd feel the same regardless of whether I had kids or not or what level of education they might attain. I'd also point out that recent research shows that the state receives significantly more cash from graduates over their working lifetime than it costs to educate them, so it's a net gain for everyone.

To get back on topic, maybe if all the rich wasters and corporations who currently avoid taxation at every available (legal) opportunity actually paid their fair share we'd be able to afford a 1st class free education system.'"


deluded, and that is being polite

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Quote: cod'ead "Do you have any evidence of them offshoring money to avoid paying tax on it?

I wondered when you'd pop up with your stock "jealous" comment'"


I know of at least one Labour bigwig that does. But that is confidential information.

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Quote: Standee "there are way more people who frequent this board that are envious of people who have achieved more than they have, who point to them having more opportunity.

Sin Bin has become a mouthpiece for the left, you only need look to the moderators/admin to see this is so, there is no balance, but maybe that reflects rugby fans in general, working class, little or no aspiration beyond making ends meet and a fortnight in benidorm as a holiday.

it's a sad reflection of british society, people would rather punish the successful than strive themselves.'"


I think that post is a sad reflection of you.

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Quote: Standee "there are way more people who frequent this board that are envious of people who have achieved more than they have, who point to them having more opportunity.

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Speaking for myself I can categorically state that I hold no envy whatsoever of people who have achieved more material and financial means than myself, none whatsoever.

This time last week I was spending four days at one of the most wealthy parts of The Algarve surveying two homes, one of which I know for a fact cost ten million euros (I was with the architect), and the other which was bigger and better located, I didn't bother asking how much that one had cost, I'm guessing fifteen to twenty mill.

Was I envious or jealous ? Not at all.

Would I swap places with those people ? In all seriousness probably not.

I know who the clients were and I know what they do for a living and I know what their responsibilities are, not for all the tea in China or all of the trillions of euros on the Vale Do Lobo estate would I swap places with them, not for one minute.

Would they swap places with me, I think they possibly would you know, the architect, who I have known for 44 years remarked while we were away just how relaxed I am these days since I shook off all of my business responsibilities for an ordinary day job and I had to agree with him - the pursuit of wealth is not the most important thing in life, its not even in the top ten.

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