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Check what you get for free on the flight as well - stuff like sleep masks, neck pillows etc may be available on the plane rather than having to buy them in advance.

If you get the option to upgrade to economy seats with additional legroom or by the emergency exits, take it. I know you've not got the longest of legs, but it really does make a difference.

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its not the first flight on split long hauls that kills you its the second one. I've often found this travelling to the west coast of the US. The first flight to Philly or O'hare is not so bad but after a couple of hours transfer the second 4-6 hours flight is knackering. An ipad is the ideal in flight companion but you will need noise cancelling earphones if you want to hear anything. I also use my kindle on most flights.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Check what you get for free on the flight as well - stuff like sleep masks, neck pillows etc may be available on the plane rather than having to buy them in advance.

If you get the option to upgrade to economy seats with additional legroom or by the emergency exits, take it. I know you've not got the longest of legs, but it really does make a difference.'"



It would be very selfish of the Hobbit to take up one of those additional legroom seats, especially when his legs won't even touch the floor.

PS Loz, When you get to Vietnam don't go out into the country side, not even on organised tours, there is a good chance that when uneducated peasants see your hair they'll take you for a god and not let you return.

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Go into it with the right attitude. I really enjoy long haul flights nowadays and actually look forward to them. I know I can watch loads of movies (new releases but also loads of films from the far east not generally shown over here - I am normally flying to Bangkok or Singapore) and catch up with reading books and magazines I haven't had time for as in that 12 hours I will not be disturbed by work, family etc. No point in worrying about everyday life when you are up in the sky as you can't do anything about any problems. It is like being in a cocoon from reality and I enjoy that. If you go into the flight thinking it will be long and boring, it will be. Instead be organised and don't keep checking your watch!

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Quote: Lawrie L "I'm venturing on my first ever long haul flight in June and I was just wondering if anyone has any tips to stop me getting bored senseless on the flight and how to cope with sleeping etc?

cheers!'"


Having done a few trips to Australia on my own, and I hate flying, my own personal strategy is to take advantage of the free booze, always helps the time go for me.

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1. See if they offer extra legroom seats in economy. I upgraded for 20 quid coming back from China last week on Virgin - it's well worth it.

2. Get an Aisle seat - far less claustrophobic and there are sometimes clips under the seat arm that allow you to lift the arm up on the aisle side - loads more room.

3. Don't drink any alcohol at all. Seriously, this is the biggest tip I can give you. The tempatation (Christopher eusa_naughty.gif ) is to have a few and think this will send you off to sleep and you'll wake up at your destination with nothing more than a bit of a dry mouth. Wrong. You'll sleep for 2 hours and then wake up mid flight with a stiff neck, and a hangover. You will then travel the bulk of you journey unable to sleep feeling pooh. If I wanted to torture someone I'd get them pished and then put them on a flight to China in economy. You should only dirnk when you know you can go to bed and sleep it off for 10 hours. I have seen so many guys on long haul flights puking and moaning with hangovers mid journey (I may have done it myself as well I admit).

4. Noise cancelling headphones. Best 50 quid I've ever spent. The ones on the plane let all the aircraft noise through so you have to crank the volume up on the film you are watching up to 11 to hear anything. Try putting a power drill at full tilt next to ears for 11 hours and imagine the headache (combine this with a hangover and you really are in Hell). Noise cancelling headphones will kiil all the engine noise and sometimes I just sit with them on not even listening to anything for the quiet.

5. Forget trying to adjust to destination time. Takes your body a week to do that, it won't happen on a plane flight.

6. Sleeping pills. I got some off my missus and even if they don't knock you out they will relax you and you end up less stiff.

7. ALWAYS ask for an upgrade when you check in (don't check in online - do it when you get to the airlport). You never, ever know when they might just say...YES!

Where are you flying from?

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Quote: Andy Gilder "If you get the option to upgrade to economy seats with additional legroom or by the emergency exits, take it. I know you've not got the longest of legs, but it really does make a difference.'"


They charge a fortune for those now, but Virgin have banks of seats with extra legroom - unless you're 6'6" they are great. Also, the seats by the bulkhead partitions which have free leg space infront put you right next to the "Baby" seats. The central seats by the bulkhead where they put families with babies. Babies do only one thing on long haul - cry. Even noise cancelling headphones are useless against a baby wailing. You need to be at least 4-5 rows back.

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Alwayts get the aisle seat on the middle row of 4, this has always been great for me. My last return flight from Aus I had the whole row of 4 to myself for both legs of the flight.

Also dont pick a seat near a 'bulk head' as that is usually where they have the sky cots, sky cots means noisy sprogs - not good on a long flight

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1 (a). If nothing else, get the best noise-cancelling earphones you can. I have some in-ear Sennheiser ones. The nearest to the model i have that i can see is the CX500. Comes with a volume control on the cord, different size earplus and if it still has one, an on-off switch for the noise reduction.

I haven't tried any of the over-ear ones, but they can be £200-250 so presume they must be as good or better; but the sheer luxury of sticking the rubber earpiece in your ear and that drone disappearing takes a hell of a lot of stress away. The number one tip. Bar none.

(b) A snazzy sweatband/headband/buff thingy, if choosing in-ear earphones, to stop them slowly working their way out - or being pulled out when you nod off!

(c) Obviously, you chosen music device!! the point with the noise cancelling earphones is, use them all the time, even when NOt listening to music, as you don't realise how stressing the constant drone is until after it has stopped. But if you forget your ipod you'll be sick!

2. (a) A good, long book that you have always meant to read.
(b) don't forget your bookmark!

3. A fleece jacket, for when it gets cold on the plane.

Did I mention noise-cancelling earphones?

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Quote: DHM "Get an Aisle seat - far less claustrophobic and there are sometimes clips under the seat arm that allow you to lift the arm up on the aisle side - loads more room.'"

I always opt for a window seat in economy, for the simple fact you get something to look at occasionally and more importantly you can rest your head against the cabin interior (I always take a jacket as a cushion). Far easier and comfier than that awkward moment when you nod off, your head drops sharply and you crick your neck. Did myself some neck damage on a Heathrow-Manchester flight last month falling asleep like that on the looooooong taxi out at Heathrow.

Quote: DHM "Don't drink any alcohol at all.'"

Getting bladdered is a stupid idea, agreed, but I find a glass of wine or two or three before departure helps, and it shouldn't make you desperate to wee. As I said earlier, in business class the crew tend to plough you with booze to get you off to sleep anyway. Works for me.

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Yes, I would say having a regular tipple will make your journey that bit ore pleasant, though I'd recommend some soft drinks in between to counter headaches. Peeing is not an issue, they have plenty of dubs, and the occasional walk to the dubs and back you'll find means suddenly when you get back to your seat you are much more comfortable, for that little bit of movement and exercise.

But back to my list - only wished i'd followed this advice once, but wish I had-

4. Your choice of HEADACHE pills. Aspirin, paracetamol, whatever. They aren't allowed to give you anything on the plane and if your head chooses those hours to ache (and I think the changes in pressure, the noise etc do tend to cause headaches) you'll wish you had a couple of pills to pop. My personal choice is Nurofen.

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14:00
Midlands
v
Hunslet
     Womens Super League 2024-R12
14:00
FeatherstoneW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
15:00
Hull FC
v
Castleford
       Championship 2024-R24
17:00
Toulouse
v
Sheffield
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
20:00
Catalans
v
Wigan
 Sun 1st Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
05:00
Newcastle
v
Gold Coast
07:05
Sydney
v
Canberra
     Womens Super League 2024-R12
12:00
LeedsW
v
York V
12:00
WiganW
v
Wire W
14:00
Hudds W
v
St.HelensW
       League One 2024-R22
14:30
Crusaders
v
Cornwall
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
15:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
15:00
LondonB
v
Leeds
       Championship 2024-R24
15:00
Batley
v
Widnes
15:00
Doncaster
v
Halifax
15:00
Featherstone
v
Barrow
15:00
Swinton
v
Wakefield
15:00
Whitehaven
v
York
       League One 2024-R22
15:00
Oldham
v
Workington
15:00
Rochdale
v
Keighley
 Thu 5th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
10:50
Brisbane
v
Melbourne
 Fri 6th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
09:00
Wests
v
Parramatta
11:00
Souths
v
Sydney
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
17:15
Wire W
v
St.HelensW
17:30
LeedsW
v
FeatherstoneW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
20:00
Castleford
v
Leigh
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Warrington
v
St.Helens
20:00
Wigan
v
Hull KR
 Sat 7th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
06:00
St.George
v
Canberra
08:30
Canterbury
v
NQL Cowboys
10:35
Penrith
v
Gold Coast
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
BarrowW
v
Hudds W
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Barrow
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
18:00
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v
Catalans
 Sun 8th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
05:00
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v
Cronulla
07:05
Newcastle
v
Dolphins
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
WiganW
v
York V
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
15:00
Huddersfield
v
LondonB
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Batley
v
Doncaster
15:00
Halifax
v
Dewsbury
15:00
Sheffield
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Featherstone
15:00
Wakefield
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Widnes
v
York
 Fri 13th Sep 2024
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull KR
20:00
St.Helens
v
Castleford
20:00
Wigan
v
Leeds
 Sat 14th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
14:00
FeatherstoneW
v
York V
14:00
St.HelensW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Hull FC
v
Salford
       Championship 2024-R26
15:00
Barrow
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Bradford
v
Batley
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Swinton
15:00
Doncaster
v
Widnes
15:00
Featherstone
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
York
17:00
Toulouse
v
Halifax
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Catalans
v
LondonB
 Sun 15th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
12:00
WiganW
v
LeedsW
14:00
Hudds W
v
Wire W
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Fri 20th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
19:30
Sheffield
v
York
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull FC
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull KR
v
Leeds
20:00
Leigh
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
LondonB
20:00
Wigan
v
Salford
 Sat 21st Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
18:00
Featherstone
v
Dewsbury
18:00
Widnes
v
Toulouse
19:30
Wakefield
v
Barrow
 Sun 22nd Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
15:00
Batley
v
Swinton
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Doncaster
 Sat 28th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
17:00
Toulouse
v
Batley
 Sun 29th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
15:00
Barrow
v
Widnes
15:00
Bradford
v
Swinton
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
Doncaster
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Halifax
15:00
York
v
Featherstone
 Sun 27th Oct 2024
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14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov 2024
     Womens Internationals 2024-R2
12:00
ENGLAND W
v
WALES W
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
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Thu 8th Aug
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Salford
Fri 9th Aug
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
Sat 10th Aug
SL
15:00
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Sun 11th Aug
SL
15:00
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19:30
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SL
17:00
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
14:30
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:30
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SL
15:00
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:30
Huddersfield-Castleford
Fri 23rd Aug
SL
20:00
Castleford-Warrington
SL
20:00
Leeds-Catalans
Sat 24th Aug
SL
15:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
SL
14:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Sun 25th Aug
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15:00
LondonB-Leigh
SL
15:00
Wigan-Hull FC
Fri 30th Aug
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Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
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Sun 4th Aug
SL 20 LondonB12-10Catalans
WSL2024 10 FeatherstoneW6-68LeedsW
WSL2024 10 BarrowW6-64St.HelensW
WSL2024 10 Wire W0-61York V
WSL2024 10 WiganW70-0Hudds W
L1 18 Keighley72-12Newcastle
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L1 18 Rochdale46-32Cornwall
L1 18 Workington24-28Crusaders
CH 20 Barrow24-24Bradford
CH 20 Dewsbury16-42Wakefield
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CH 20 Halifax38-18York
CH 20 Sheffield22-20Doncaster
CH 20 Whitehaven12-24Widnes
NRL 22 Penrith22-14Newcastle
NRL 22 Canterbury22-18Canberra
Sat 3rd Aug
SL 20 Hull FC6-46St.Helens
SL 20 Salford22-16Leeds
CH 20 Swinton4-48Toulouse
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Hull KR 20 503 259 244 30
Wigan 19 495 258 237 30
Warrington 20 502 267 235 28
Salford 20 377 382 -5 26
St.Helens 20 501 262 239 24
Catalans 20 376 286 90 24
 
Leeds 20 371 364 7 20
Leigh 19 392 286 106 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 20 274 612 -338 6
LondonB 20 210 735 -525 4
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 18 626 222 404 34
Sheffield 18 510 303 207 26
Toulouse 17 516 224 292 25
Widnes 18 434 319 115 23
Bradford 18 421 321 100 22
Featherstone 18 464 375 89 18
 
Doncaster 18 338 432 -94 17
York 19 446 383 63 16
Batley 18 300 390 -90 16
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Swinton 18 346 470 -124 12
Whitehaven 18 348 580 -232 12
Dewsbury 19 240 602 -362 2
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