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Quote: fatboystu "we watch it because we enjoy watching it. i don't lust after the actors/actresses, as to do so would mean i want to have sex with them, i don't. sometimes we watch porn to gain new ideas for our sex life, sometimes that missionary lark gets a bit tedious don't cha think?'"


What do you get from a film that you can't get from a book, or mere experimentation?

Quote: fatboystu "do you and your wife watch soap operas? just because you watch eastenders doesn't mean you want to live in albert square, just because you read a recipe book for ideas doesn't mean you want to eat at another mans table.'"


We don't watch any soap operas, and even if we did, I would pass it off as some kind of research.

Quote: fatboystu "no its not ok. child porn is illegal. engaging in sexual activity with anybody under the age of consent is wrong and illegal. as for people who watch child porn but never hurt other people, these people are, if they were nothing else, an enabler. without them there would be no child porn "industry". so tell me again that they aren't doing anything to hurt other people.'"


OK so would you oppose someone viewing only existing child pornography? Y'know, they wouldn't encourage any more being made but they have enough to stop them abusing children.

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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



Quick move the goal posts!!

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Quote: kirkstaller "What do you get from a film that you can't get from a book, or mere experimentation?'"


if you'd bothered to read my earlier post you would have seen that i said i've been reading porn longer than i've been watching it.

Quote: kirkstaller "We don't watch any soap operas, and even if we did, I would pass it off as some kind of research.'"


why would you "pass it off as some kind of research"? do you need to make excuses for everything you do in life?

Quote: kirkstaller "OK so would you oppose someone viewing only existing child pornography? Y'know, they wouldn't encourage any more being made but they have enough to stop them abusing children.'"


this seems to be something of an obsession for you, and to be frank it worries me somewhat. in answer to your question however (and at risk of repetition) i oppose any type of child porn. it is illegal, sexual activity with anyone under the age of consent is illegal. so, even if no more was made, by owning or viewing child porn you are breaking the law. on a personal level, the thought of child porn disgusts me, as it should any normal person.

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Quote: kirkstaller "Just my personal experience.

In the States we had guys coming to our chapel seeking help on an almost weekly basis.'"
That will be a no and you made it up then.

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Quote: Mintball "Dally's trolling is becoming more and more obvious.'"
You can't say that.
He will next ask you what you mean by it and then when another poster explains it he will get all upset and sqweam and sqweam until he makes himself sick again.

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Quote: kirkstaller "Lots of couples watch pornography together, I appreciate that. But even if both parties are happy with it then it is still damaging to the relationship. Lusting after other people can never be a good thing for our relationships.

I admit that I occasionally have a wandering eye; I daresay my wife does as well. However, what brings us together is the knowledge that such instincts are wrong and that sexual activity is mean for married couples only. This brings us back to each other, and we have a great sex life.'"

So much of this is rubbish that I won't waste my time with it.

Quote: kirkstaller "Another problem is when adults become too involved with pornography and begin watching videos which are illegal. I challenge anyone to justify child pornography.'"
Just so you understand Child pornography is already illegal so why or how would anyone justify it? I only state this as you seemed to have missed them memo about it.........Oh no wait you already knew this as you mentioned.

So to clarify you are seeming to say that we should make normal pornography illegal because of child pornography which is already illegal. What an incredibly strange statement to make. d040.gif

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"You are working for Satan." [i:2886spie]Kirkstaller[/i:2886spie] "Dare to know!" [i:2886spie]Immanuel Kant[/i:2886spie] "Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" [i:2886spie]Elbert Hubbard[/i:2886spie] "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." [i:2886spie]Oscar Wilde[/i:2886spie] [url=http://thevoluptuousmanifesto.blogspot.co.uk:2886spie][color=#4000FF:2886spie]The Voluptuous Manifesto[/color:2886spie][/url:2886spie] – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1977.jpg



Quote: kirkstaller "... what brings us together is the knowledge that such instincts are wrong ...'"


Those nasty, god-given instincts, eh?

Quote: kirkstaller "... Another problem is when adults become too involved with pornography and begin watching videos which are illegal. I challenge anyone to justify child pornography.'"


This is crass and disingenuous even by your standards.

If, as you're suggesting, watching porn always leads to the illegal – and your implication here is that it leads to viewing child porn – then it is as legitimate to say that all consenting, adult sex leads to child abuse.

Quote: kirkstaller "... Your principles are wrong ...'"


Here we go again. Judge not that ye be not judged. Hypocrite.

Quote: kirkstaller "What do you get from a film that you can't get from a book ...'"


Well indeed. There are plenty of excellent porn books out there – some of it is downright literary. And nobody's ever lusted over something that they've read, oh no ...

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Quote: kirkstaller "we have a great sex life.

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With that hair "style"?

Feck off.

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Quote: Sheldon "From porn to peadofiles in one easy jump.

The lazy preacher strikes again!'"


Some see the connection between the two, mainly because they are morons.

I was once asked 'would you let a gay near your young son' icon_eek.gif

The person in question couldn't get it that the vast majority of gay men and women find pedophilia as abhorrent as the vast majority of heterosexuals do.

I think Kirkstaller finds it difficult to believe that a happy couple, whatever the sexual orientation can enjoy watching a porno without it screwing the relationship, it shows how sheltered a life a lot of these devout religious believers have.

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Quote: rover49 "
I think Kirkstaller finds it difficult to believe that a happy couple, whatever the sexual orientation can enjoy watching a porno without it screwing the relationship, it shows how sheltered a life a lot of these devout religious believers have.'"


In his defence, when you've only ever had joyless, functional, missionary position sex, you probably find porn a bit overwhelming.

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Quote: kirkstaller "What do you get from a film that you can't get from a book?

'"


Free hands? icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: ryano "Free hands?
Depends if you have the DVD player controls in your hand to keep rewinding to the money shot in slow-mo?

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Minty, any chance of a signed copy of one of your tomes for my missus? She does enjoy a bit of sticky fingered reading.


I don't think internet porn has changed me at all, I was always a deviant....

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Quote: Scooter Nik "Minty, any chance of a signed copy of one of your tomes for my missus? She does enjoy a bit of sticky fingered reading.


I don't think internet porn has changed me at all, I was always a deviant....'"


It is in German, but ... PM me your details, her name etc. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Mintball "It is in German, but ... PM me your details, her name etc.
And if you need any research info for the next novel feel free to contact me.

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Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
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Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
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