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Quote: fatboystu "we watch it because we enjoy watching it. i don't lust after the actors/actresses, as to do so would mean i want to have sex with them, i don't. sometimes we watch porn to gain new ideas for our sex life, sometimes that missionary lark gets a bit tedious don't cha think?'"


What do you get from a film that you can't get from a book, or mere experimentation?

Quote: fatboystu "do you and your wife watch soap operas? just because you watch eastenders doesn't mean you want to live in albert square, just because you read a recipe book for ideas doesn't mean you want to eat at another mans table.'"


We don't watch any soap operas, and even if we did, I would pass it off as some kind of research.

Quote: fatboystu "no its not ok. child porn is illegal. engaging in sexual activity with anybody under the age of consent is wrong and illegal. as for people who watch child porn but never hurt other people, these people are, if they were nothing else, an enabler. without them there would be no child porn "industry". so tell me again that they aren't doing anything to hurt other people.'"


OK so would you oppose someone viewing only existing child pornography? Y'know, they wouldn't encourage any more being made but they have enough to stop them abusing children.

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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



Quick move the goal posts!!

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Quote: kirkstaller "What do you get from a film that you can't get from a book, or mere experimentation?'"


if you'd bothered to read my earlier post you would have seen that i said i've been reading porn longer than i've been watching it.

Quote: kirkstaller "We don't watch any soap operas, and even if we did, I would pass it off as some kind of research.'"


why would you "pass it off as some kind of research"? do you need to make excuses for everything you do in life?

Quote: kirkstaller "OK so would you oppose someone viewing only existing child pornography? Y'know, they wouldn't encourage any more being made but they have enough to stop them abusing children.'"


this seems to be something of an obsession for you, and to be frank it worries me somewhat. in answer to your question however (and at risk of repetition) i oppose any type of child porn. it is illegal, sexual activity with anyone under the age of consent is illegal. so, even if no more was made, by owning or viewing child porn you are breaking the law. on a personal level, the thought of child porn disgusts me, as it should any normal person.

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Quote: kirkstaller "Just my personal experience.

In the States we had guys coming to our chapel seeking help on an almost weekly basis.'"
That will be a no and you made it up then.

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Quote: Mintball "Dally's trolling is becoming more and more obvious.'"
You can't say that.
He will next ask you what you mean by it and then when another poster explains it he will get all upset and sqweam and sqweam until he makes himself sick again.

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Quote: kirkstaller "Lots of couples watch pornography together, I appreciate that. But even if both parties are happy with it then it is still damaging to the relationship. Lusting after other people can never be a good thing for our relationships.

I admit that I occasionally have a wandering eye; I daresay my wife does as well. However, what brings us together is the knowledge that such instincts are wrong and that sexual activity is mean for married couples only. This brings us back to each other, and we have a great sex life.'"

So much of this is rubbish that I won't waste my time with it.

Quote: kirkstaller "Another problem is when adults become too involved with pornography and begin watching videos which are illegal. I challenge anyone to justify child pornography.'"
Just so you understand Child pornography is already illegal so why or how would anyone justify it? I only state this as you seemed to have missed them memo about it.........Oh no wait you already knew this as you mentioned.

So to clarify you are seeming to say that we should make normal pornography illegal because of child pornography which is already illegal. What an incredibly strange statement to make. d040.gif

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Quote: kirkstaller "... what brings us together is the knowledge that such instincts are wrong ...'"


Those nasty, god-given instincts, eh?

Quote: kirkstaller "... Another problem is when adults become too involved with pornography and begin watching videos which are illegal. I challenge anyone to justify child pornography.'"


This is crass and disingenuous even by your standards.

If, as you're suggesting, watching porn always leads to the illegal – and your implication here is that it leads to viewing child porn – then it is as legitimate to say that all consenting, adult sex leads to child abuse.

Quote: kirkstaller "... Your principles are wrong ...'"


Here we go again. Judge not that ye be not judged. Hypocrite.

Quote: kirkstaller "What do you get from a film that you can't get from a book ...'"


Well indeed. There are plenty of excellent porn books out there – some of it is downright literary. And nobody's ever lusted over something that they've read, oh no ...

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Quote: kirkstaller "we have a great sex life.

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With that hair "style"?

Feck off.

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Quote: Sheldon "From porn to peadofiles in one easy jump.

The lazy preacher strikes again!'"


Some see the connection between the two, mainly because they are morons.

I was once asked 'would you let a gay near your young son' icon_eek.gif

The person in question couldn't get it that the vast majority of gay men and women find pedophilia as abhorrent as the vast majority of heterosexuals do.

I think Kirkstaller finds it difficult to believe that a happy couple, whatever the sexual orientation can enjoy watching a porno without it screwing the relationship, it shows how sheltered a life a lot of these devout religious believers have.

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Quote: rover49 "
I think Kirkstaller finds it difficult to believe that a happy couple, whatever the sexual orientation can enjoy watching a porno without it screwing the relationship, it shows how sheltered a life a lot of these devout religious believers have.'"


In his defence, when you've only ever had joyless, functional, missionary position sex, you probably find porn a bit overwhelming.

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Quote: kirkstaller "What do you get from a film that you can't get from a book?

'"


Free hands? icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: ryano "Free hands?
Depends if you have the DVD player controls in your hand to keep rewinding to the money shot in slow-mo?

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Minty, any chance of a signed copy of one of your tomes for my missus? She does enjoy a bit of sticky fingered reading.


I don't think internet porn has changed me at all, I was always a deviant....

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Quote: Scooter Nik "Minty, any chance of a signed copy of one of your tomes for my missus? She does enjoy a bit of sticky fingered reading.


I don't think internet porn has changed me at all, I was always a deviant....'"


It is in German, but ... PM me your details, her name etc. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Mintball "It is in German, but ... PM me your details, her name etc.
And if you need any research info for the next novel feel free to contact me.

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Swinton
v
Wakefield
15:00
Whitehaven
v
York
       League One 2024-R22
15:00
Oldham
v
Workington
15:00
Rochdale
v
Keighley
 Thu 5th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
10:50
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v
Melbourne
 Fri 6th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
09:00
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11:00
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Sydney
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
17:15
Wire W
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17:30
LeedsW
v
FeatherstoneW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
20:00
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v
Leigh
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Warrington
v
St.Helens
20:00
Wigan
v
Hull KR
 Sat 7th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
06:00
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v
Canberra
08:30
Canterbury
v
NQL Cowboys
10:35
Penrith
v
Gold Coast
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
BarrowW
v
Hudds W
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Barrow
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
18:00
Salford
v
Catalans
 Sun 8th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
05:00
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v
Cronulla
07:05
Newcastle
v
Dolphins
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
WiganW
v
York V
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
15:00
Huddersfield
v
LondonB
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
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v
Doncaster
15:00
Halifax
v
Dewsbury
15:00
Sheffield
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Featherstone
15:00
Wakefield
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Widnes
v
York
 Fri 13th Sep 2024
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull KR
20:00
St.Helens
v
Castleford
20:00
Wigan
v
Leeds
 Sat 14th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
14:00
FeatherstoneW
v
York V
14:00
St.HelensW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Hull FC
v
Salford
       Championship 2024-R26
15:00
Barrow
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Bradford
v
Batley
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Swinton
15:00
Doncaster
v
Widnes
15:00
Featherstone
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
York
17:00
Toulouse
v
Halifax
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Catalans
v
LondonB
 Sun 15th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
12:00
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v
LeedsW
14:00
Hudds W
v
Wire W
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Fri 20th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
19:30
Sheffield
v
York
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull FC
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull KR
v
Leeds
20:00
Leigh
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
LondonB
20:00
Wigan
v
Salford
 Sat 21st Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
18:00
Featherstone
v
Dewsbury
18:00
Widnes
v
Toulouse
19:30
Wakefield
v
Barrow
 Sun 22nd Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
15:00
Batley
v
Swinton
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Doncaster
 Sat 28th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
17:00
Toulouse
v
Batley
 Sun 29th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
15:00
Barrow
v
Widnes
15:00
Bradford
v
Swinton
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
Doncaster
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Halifax
15:00
York
v
Featherstone
 Sun 27th Oct 2024
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14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov 2024
     Womens Internationals 2024-R2
12:00
ENGLAND W
v
WALES W
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
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Matches on TV
Thu 8th Aug
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Salford
Fri 9th Aug
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
Sat 10th Aug
SL
15:00
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Sun 11th Aug
SL
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SL
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Sat 17th Aug
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19:30
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SL
17:00
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
14:30
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:30
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SL
15:00
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:30
Huddersfield-Castleford
Fri 23rd Aug
SL
20:00
Castleford-Warrington
SL
20:00
Leeds-Catalans
Sat 24th Aug
SL
15:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
SL
14:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Sun 25th Aug
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15:00
LondonB-Leigh
SL
15:00
Wigan-Hull FC
Fri 30th Aug
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20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Warrington
Sun 4th Aug
SL 20 LondonB12-10Catalans
WSL2024 10 FeatherstoneW6-68LeedsW
WSL2024 10 BarrowW6-64St.HelensW
WSL2024 10 Wire W0-61York V
WSL2024 10 WiganW70-0Hudds W
L1 18 Keighley72-12Newcastle
L1 18 Oldham32-0Midlands
L1 18 Rochdale46-32Cornwall
L1 18 Workington24-28Crusaders
CH 20 Barrow24-24Bradford
CH 20 Dewsbury16-42Wakefield
CH 20 Featherstone24-16Batley
CH 20 Halifax38-18York
CH 20 Sheffield22-20Doncaster
CH 20 Whitehaven12-24Widnes
NRL 22 Penrith22-14Newcastle
NRL 22 Canterbury22-18Canberra
Sat 3rd Aug
SL 20 Hull FC6-46St.Helens
SL 20 Salford22-16Leeds
CH 20 Swinton4-48Toulouse
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Hull KR 20 503 259 244 30
Wigan 19 495 258 237 30
Warrington 20 502 267 235 28
Salford 20 377 382 -5 26
St.Helens 20 501 262 239 24
Catalans 20 376 286 90 24
 
Leeds 20 371 364 7 20
Leigh 19 392 286 106 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 20 274 612 -338 6
LondonB 20 210 735 -525 4
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 18 626 222 404 34
Sheffield 18 510 303 207 26
Toulouse 17 516 224 292 25
Widnes 18 434 319 115 23
Bradford 18 421 321 100 22
Featherstone 18 464 375 89 18
 
Doncaster 18 338 432 -94 17
York 19 446 383 63 16
Batley 18 300 390 -90 16
Halifax 18 356 477 -121 14
Barrow 17 279 482 -203 13
Swinton 18 346 470 -124 12
Whitehaven 18 348 580 -232 12
Dewsbury 19 240 602 -362 2
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