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Anyway, back to Brexit. John Curtice has a good article in the New Statesman today, pointing out the silliness of the universal media narrative about how it was working class Labour voters wot lost it, instead of the real reason

It was my understanding that the public voted by secret ballot. So all these theories by the democratic result deniers are based on a couple of polls - these same out of touch polls that predicted a win for Remain. You might as well lick your finger and stick it in the air.

Even if you believed these polls if you look a bit deeper they also say that only 36% of the eligible 18-24 yr olds cast their vote. and leave had a majority in the 45-54 age group and the 55-64 age group in addition to the 65+ age group. Even the 35-44 age group only had a small majority to remain. Other official data reveals that 20% of the youngest age group had not bothered to register in the first place and this would have been greater had extra time not been awarded.

What is both amusing and sad to see that there are a large number on the remain side especially from the arrogant metro elite and media in London and the Scottish Nasties that just cannot accept democracy when they are on the wrong side of the result in what was the biggest turn out in our History. They are scrabbling around trying to find ways to change the result by calling for another referendum, a new election, talk of trying to vote in Parliament against the public's will etc etc. Not only are they sore losers but they are further unsettling the markets in acts of self harm.

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So, a couple of months have passed.

Are we all still doomed to oblivion or is the outlook good for Brexit?

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Brexit's been kicked into the long grass

Until 2019 at least

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Quote: geek "Brexit's been kicked into the long grass

Until 2019 at least'"

Until another referendum in 2019 that will bring a remain vote after a concerted push by the government.

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Quote: geek "Brexit's been kicked into the long grass

Until 2019 at least'"


think it will be next year april time

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Quote: Orrell Lad "So, a couple of months have passed.

Are we all still doomed to oblivion or is the outlook good for Brexit?'"


It's certainly helped our export market !
(well it would have if we actually manufactured anything in the UK)

Unfortunately, all imported goods have increased in price by over 10% and we wait for these prices to be passed on to the consumer, deep joy.
On the plus side, the demand for foreign holidays has reduced so, that will help the UK economy icon_biggrin.gif

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snippet today that arund 25% drop in foriegn workers applying to work in trade

more jobs for locals? bosses having to pay abit more?

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Quote: brearley84 "snippet today that arund 25% drop in foriegn workers applying to work in trade

more jobs for locals? bosses having to pay abit more?'"


You really think so ??

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Quote: brearley84 "snippet today that arund 25% drop in foriegn workers applying to work in trade'"


Which trade?

Quote: brearley84 "bosses having to pay abit more?'"


lol

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Unfortunately, all imported goods have increased in price by over 10%'"


It's up to people to start buying British more often. There are plenty of companies out there if people can be bothered to look. Unfortunately we live in an age where people would rather spend their hard earned money on easily accessible foreign crap.

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Quote: King Street Cat "It's up to people to start buying British more often. There are plenty of companies out there if people can be bothered to look. Unfortunately we live in an age where people would rather spend their hard earned money on easily accessible foreign crap.'"


Are you serious ?

Primark, on of the fastest growing and largest stores on the high street, sell very, very little (if anything) that is manufactured in the UK and even with some currency led inflation, the UK is in no position to compete with China, India, Indonesia etc, etc.
The UK population buy on price above all else and apart from the better off members of society, the vast majority cannot afford to buy British (even if UK made goods were available).
Have a look around your house and see what you can find that is made over here, it will be interesting to see what you find.

Granted some products may become slightly more competitive if they are being made for export but, where are the raw materials going to come from to make these items ?
The UK has run a massive trade deficit since the middle of the last century and although this may be offset by our substantial banking/finance services, the UK is clearly vulnerable to increasing prices from overseas.

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I'm not for one minute suggesting that 'everything' can be bought British or locally but there are still plenty of things that can be which keep more money in the local and national economy.

I hate Primark with a passion. Cheaply made, cheaply sold and cheaply thrown away with no other goal than fast fashion and profit. The fact it is one of the fastest growing retailers makes me feel nauseous and reflects the morals of today's throwaway society where nothing is valued. I was always taught to save up, buy well buy once and look after the things I bought. Probably the reason I still wear items of British made clothing from the 1990s!

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positive news that the PM is pushing ahead with the exit yesterday icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: wrencat1873 "apart from the better off members of society, the vast majority cannot afford to buy British'"


Isn't this just a stigma attached to buying British though?

I know people to whom the mere mention of local business, hand-made, farm shop or farmer's market has them in a total fit of rage.

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