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A point lost to most on the Wakey forum.'"


And about 60% of the voting public.

Isolation for those coming back from overseas and especially those from worst hit areas should have been imposed from day 1, along with flight restrictions.
Hit the thing hard and hit it early, may have been sensible, instead of "lets leave it as long as we can", which just means it takes longer to get through.

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It’s too late we have allowed the majority of those wishing to enter the country come in or come back. The majority of airlines no longer operate a flying schedule so the impact will be minimal other than for the Farages of this world who will no doubt be once again breaking the stay at home policy to travel to his favourite destination in Kent.

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I honestly thought there was a quarantine period for people travelling here. It's been in place in most other countries for at least at a month now.
It seems ridiculous that it wasn't already in place.

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Welcome to the pandemic response Johnson style.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "It’s too late we have allowed the majority of those wishing to enter the country come in or come back. The majority of airlines no longer operate a flying schedule so the impact will be minimal other than for the Farages of this world who will no doubt be once again breaking the stay at home policy to travel to his favourite destination in Kent.'"


The likes of wire-quin will be proud of Nige.
He's fighting them on the beaches.

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Quote: WIZEB "The likes of wire-quin will be proud of Nige.
He's fighting them on the beaches.'"


He's only fighting those who dont look English so, it's ok icon_wink.gif

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Well done Rishi & HMG. The furlough scheme now extended to the end of October, with flexibility from August to bring people back part-time and still participate in the scheme, with the employer also contributing.

Outstanding levels of support. Fantastic. Although it's likely most mortgage holidays will end within this period, this again helps protect and save millions of jobs and homes.

Any sniff of appreciation or gratitude from the left?

Anything?

Anyone?

Hello?

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Are you going to apologise for the many errors made by the government and the excess deaths this will have caused.

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Quote: Cronus "Well done Rishi & HMG. The furlough scheme now extended to the end of October, with flexibility from August to bring people back part-time and still participate in the scheme, with the employer also contributing.

Outstanding levels of support. Fantastic. Although it's likely most mortgage holidays will end within this period, this again helps protect and save millions of jobs and homes.

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Anything?

Anyone?

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Wouldn't have needed to extend the furlough had Bungle Johnsons' right wing nutty Tory government acted when they were advised to.

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Just had a chuckle that the Chancellor has rejected claims that people could get 'addicted' to furlough. icon_lol.gif
Good to be back at work.
No office staff, most of the bigwigs are working from home.
Just the troops on the ground making the most of 'toss-off' central.
Happy days. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Cronus "Well done Rishi & HMG. The furlough scheme now extended to the end of October, with flexibility from August to bring people back part-time and still participate in the scheme, with the employer also contributing.

Outstanding levels of support. Fantastic. Although it's likely most mortgage holidays will end within this period, this again helps protect and save millions of jobs and homes.

Any sniff of appreciation or gratitude from the left?

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Anyone?

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Yes, brilliant, well done Bojo and Rishi.
They still havent got to grips with the situation but, it's brilliant.

Incapable of a coherent plan but, could you just imagine for one moment if a Labour government had been running the show with the exact same scheme and try to be honest.
The broadsheets and other Tory rags would be in anti communist overdrive.

Ultimately, if the government are preventing people from working, there has to be something in place and lets face it, with no end in sight for the pandemic, NOBODY knows if Bojo & Co are doing the right thing or not - it certainly cant continue indefinitely and the longer it goes on, the more businesses will call it a day, this is scary stuff and not getting better and I'm talking the virus not the political side of things.

As I say, I dont know if you actually can say well done, because the truth is that nobody knows if the current actions are the best route.

Sweden have gone an entirely different route, although there are plenty of social distancing rules but, they haven't shut down their ecconomy, certainly, they look better placed for coming through the other side and I accept that their population is significantly different to our own.

So, well done ? I think we need to wait and see where we are heading, dont you ?

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Yes, brilliant, well done Bojo and Rishi.
They still havent got to grips with the situation but, it's brilliant.

Incapable of a coherent plan but, could you just imagine for one moment if a Labour government had been running the show with the exact same scheme and try to be honest.
The broadsheets and other Tory rags would be in anti communist overdrive.

Ultimately, if the government are preventing people from working, there has to be something in place and lets face it, with no end in sight for the pandemic, NOBODY knows if Bojo & Co are doing the right thing or not - it certainly cant continue indefinitely and the longer it goes on, the more businesses will call it a day, this is scary stuff and not getting better and I'm talking the virus not the political side of things.

As I say, I dont know if you actually can say well done, because the truth is that nobody knows if the current actions are the best route.

Sweden have gone an entirely different route, although there are plenty of social distancing rules but, they haven't shut down their ecconomy, certainly, they look better placed for coming through the other side and I accept that their population is significantly different to our own.

So, well done ? I think we need to wait and see where we are heading, dont you ?'"


Fantastic work financially (although how much of it is a smoke screen to deflect away from inadequacies in other areas I'm not sure).
However, as you say, none of this means anything to the potential 40k that have lost loved ones etc.
How many more deaths have been avoided by the actions the government took? Unknown and debatable
How may have died that didnt need to? Unknown and debatable and questions need to be asked.

With regards to Sweden I agree, however I heard a stat yesterday and still cant get my head round it.50% of the households in Sweden live alone?
And x amount more are married without kids and very rarely to peoppenover 25 live at home.
If that's the case then that completely changes their demographic to ours?

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Quote: Cronus "Well done Rishi & HMG. The furlough scheme now extended to the end of October, with flexibility from August to bring people back part-time and still participate in the scheme, with the employer also contributing.

Outstanding levels of support. Fantastic. Although it's likely most mortgage holidays will end within this period, this again helps protect and save millions of jobs and homes.

Any sniff of appreciation or gratitude from the left?

Anything?

Anyone?

Hello?


I think Sunak has done an entirely adequate job as Chancellor so far.

Want to mildly criticisize Gove for having a Holocaust denier’s book on his shelf, as a bit of quid pro quo?

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I saw on twitter that Rishi Sunak has now announced more spending in three months as Chancellor than Gordon Brown did in 10 years.

If even right wingers now regard this as a policy to be applauded it shows how much Corbyn and McDonnell shifted the argument.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "I saw on twitter that Rishi Sunak has now announced more spending in three months as Chancellor than Gordon Brown did in 10 years.

If even right wingers now regard this as a policy to be applauded it shows how much Corbyn and McDonnell shifted the argument.'"


It's got rock all to do with shifting the argument.
This really is needs must and plugging holes to prevent drowning.

As I mentioned in a previous post, just imagine the absolute outrage from the right wing politicians had Labour been in power at these most testing of times.
People are saying that Starmer should go along with the government and offer unequivocal support but, I stagger to think of how things would be the other way around (politically speaking).

Having started the furlough scheme and with lockdown not yet lifted for the vast majority of the population, Sunak had no choice here and the fiscal hole grows ever larger.

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