The lack of democracy is the asking for another referendum, when the vote you are suggesting has already been taken, so, by you suggesting that staying in the EU should be on the ballot paper is totally disregarding the will of the vote in 2016. If however, the vote was between 2 or 3 options of how to leave then maybe reluctantly I would have to agree, if that shower we vote for cannot agree a deal that is best for our country.

With regards your second paragraph I apologise, if you read how you made your point it reads come out then the parties put the future of the our relationship in their respective policies.Well it did to me

Your 3rd paragraph as you say I can't disagree, Cameron didn't think for one minute that the wise British public would actually have the foresight to want to leave the EU institution.

Again I agree with you May has gone head long into the negotiations (I do admire how hard that lady works though) thinking she could just over rule everything to get her deal through, the tories had to be taken to court to allow our democratic institution that is the house of commons a say in the deal, of course the whole house should be involved. I also agree the negotiations should have been cross party, but only the two main parties ( to many cooks).

Paul

There is no need for a second referendum, WE HAVE VOTED LEAVE.

Back to the question I asked, what happens in the short / medium term?




So have I, the latest being a group of major supermarkets warning of chaos in a "No Deal" scenario . Who are those who believe everything is going to be peachy, surely not J.R.M. & the Dickensian's who make up the E.R.G? Maybe it's that bloke from Wetherspoon's, or perhaps the great Brexit traitor Dyson?

Deal or No Deal, either way those people from the deprived areas who facilitated this Tory right wing coup will still live in depredation, due to British Government policy, nothing to do with the E.U.

Today's news - Mrs May promises that if MP's back the Brady Amendment, she'll go back to the EU and re-open negotiations on the Withdrawal Agreement; having total disregard for the fact that EU officials have said, emphatically, that they won't do that.

Absolutely bang on, the turkeys voted for Christmas and as you rightly say, they (and we) will be right royally stuffed.
After all this time, we still await the positive news.
Control (whatever the feck that actually is), may well be taken back and we will pay less to the EU (although it's worth noting that a trade deal has yet to be struck and we will be £39 billion out of pocket) but, then what.
We increase immigration from outside the EU, which may have been part of the plan from the outset and STILL need to trade with our former friends in the EU.

Anyone who watched the program about Brexit last can see why we voted to leave - highly paid, unelected bureaucrats deciding what happens in Europe.

If we have another vote and it is again to leave what happens then?

So if we go to no deal as net importer would we not be better off with the exchange of tariffs?

Plenty of products currently come into the UK from outside of the EU - maybe I am mistaken but I haven't seen huge queues at the ports for clearance of these products - seems almost seamless?

Would we also see firms inside the EU relocating to the UK to manufacture and avoid the WTO tariffs?

Unless there is significant proof of a swing in either direction (and I have yet to see one) there should NOT be a second referendum, end of story.
May be we could get rid of parliament altogether and have our very own fascist dictator (Farage).

Unbelievably a guy that was/is too right wing for the Tories is lauded as some kind of working class hero.

As for unelected bureaucrats, we still have the civil service and the House of Lords to fall back on

have you ever stood back and watched a spoilt brat cry and whinge to get their way that it makes think FFS take it and FO will you,
I'm getting so sick of listening to these highly payed MPs bickering day by day I wish now I was on another planet

Nothing better than seeing Yvette Cooper the biggest bully under the Brown regime getting her backside handed to her.

You need to be careful who you upset on the way up because you will meet them on the way down.

Short term we have the Implementation period, what is the medium term not sure what that is I will just go and get my crystal ball.

Whats it got to do with people living in deprived areas, are you pigeon holing leave voters by any chance, it wouldn't be the first time. I have had it said to me that leave voters were either morons or Racist. Until I enjoyed witching them squirm when me and my wife told them we voted to leave.

If the reports are to be believed, then Dyson moved his head office to Singapore to make the most of the Asian market which currently makes up 60% of his sales and growing. He currently employs I think it was £4000 people in the UK with no redundancies planned.

most people including me would be happy with a deal EU

When you say the Turkeys voted for Christmas, who are the Turkeys ??

Sigh...





If we crash out without a deal there would be no implementation period, so I'll ask one last time, what the hell happens in the short term, or is that another one for the crystal ball?

Oh so your asking one last time that's so funny. In my honest opinion we won't leave without a deal, I believe. There is absolutely no appetite for it on either side, if as they say it's not good for either side, then, why would it happen. The biggest issue at the moment seems to be the Irish backstop and to be fair its not something I gave any thought to. But I believe the EU has now said they will leave without a deal rather than renegotiate the backstop. We will see eh.