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| Quote: GraftonRed "Good Post by James Webb on another forum...
Why are so many people seemingly so happy that a frail 87 year old woman has died? Why has an old song; 'Ding D*** The Witch Is Dead' topped download charts following Maggie Thatcher's death? Why are street parties throughout the UK in full swing right now & Twitter feeds red hot with jokes about someone who was Prime Minister for 11 years?
My brother went to London, with his girlfriend at the time, in the late 1980s for the Poll Tax protests. Everything was calm until Maggie Thatcher's thug police started causing trouble. The west end of London became a battle zone, as mounted police charged peaceful groups of protesters. My brother feared for his life that day, as Maggie tried to stamp out legitimate protests. She was good at that.
Go back five years from the Poll Tax protests & Maggie Thatcher had again unleashed her thug police, that time on striking miners. Thatcher was determined to stamp out the unions, making an example of the miners to make other unions cower. It was virtual civil war in all but name. Police were drafted in from all over the country to fight the miners.
The rich got richer & the less fortunate were treated with contempt, stamped down into the ground. Millions became unemployed, while yuppies made 'loadsa money', flaunting their wealth vulgarly. People greedily grabbed shares in sold off national assets. Those shares ended up in the hands of the rich eventually, which is what Thatcher had planned all along. It was a big Tory con.
People bought their council houses, thinking they would pass them on to their children. But this mass, undervalued housing sale robbed future generations of social housing. Council house buyers didn't realise this was another dirty Thatcher trick, because in later life those house owners would be forced to sell their homes to pay care home bills. Disgusting Tory exploitation.
Thatcher deliberately covered up police failings following the deaths of 96 at Hillsborough in 1989. Thatcher was hardly going to betray her faithful attack dogs. So the 96 were smeared & their families were mocked by the establishment for decades as they fought bravely to uncover the truth.
For those of us who lived through all this & more during Thatcher's despairing period as PM, who were forced to sign on because we were unable to find work for years as thousands of businesses folded & industry collapsed, there remained only bitter hatred for Maggie Thatcher.
People may criticise those who have rejoiced Maggie Thatcher's death, but unless you lived through those times & suffered down-trodden humiliation at the hands of Thatcher's hated Tories you will never really understand.'"
"but look at all the good she did - after all, I did OK in the 80s" - an apologist, this week.
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| Quote: Chris28 ""but look at all the good she did - after all, I did OK in the 80s" - an apologist, this week.'"
Perfect.
The "me" culture, that she legitimised, speaking out for itself.
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| Quote: El Barbudo "Perfect.
The "me" culture, that she legitimised, speaking out for itself.'"
And while some of the criticism on here has been a bit personal and unnecessary, there's been plenty of the above on here too, equally unnecessary.
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| Quote: Chris28 "And while some of the criticism on here has been a bit personal and unnecessary, there's been plenty of the above on here too, equally unnecessary.'"
Ask me a question I'll tell you the truth, unlike many on this thread I am not a made-up comedy account intent on, well, whatever it is they intend to do with false persona's, get some sort of thrill I assume.
Anyway, I did alright through Thatchers era, self employed, as independent and invincible as a young man in his 20s and 30s thinks he always is, as unwilling to pay for services used by other people as a young man always is, blaming my fathers generation for the worlds ills as every young man does.
I've grown up since then.
But nevertheless the truth remains, I voted for her and I did ok and my young family benefited too
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| Quote: JerryChicken "Ask me a question I'll tell you the truth, unlike many on this thread I am not a made-up comedy account intent on, well, whatever it is they intend to do with false persona's, get some sort of thrill I assume.
Anyway, I did alright through Thatchers era, self employed, as independent and invincible as a young man in his 20s and 30s thinks he always is, as unwilling to pay for services used by other people as a young man always is, blaming my fathers generation for the worlds ills as every young man does.
I've grown up since then.
But nevertheless the truth remains, I voted for her and I did ok and my young family benefited too'"
Are you seeking redemption?
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| Quote: WIZEB "Are you seeking redemption?'"
As long as sackcloth and ashes and self flagellation aren't involved.
Maybe the self flagellation.
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| Quote: JerryChicken "As long as sackcloth and ashes and self flagellation aren't involved.
Maybe the self flagellation.'"
Maybe I grew up too soon.
Left school in the summer of '82.
Didn't join the ranks of adult employment for 3 years.
I had to move to London for that.
In the meantime we had educated ourselves in petrol siphoning and being chased by police from many a picket line.
Heady days.
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| Quote: JerryChicken "Ask me a question I'll tell you the truth, unlike many on this thread I am not a made-up comedy account intent on, well, whatever it is they intend to do with false persona's, get some sort of thrill I assume.
Anyway, I did alright through Thatchers era, self employed, as independent and invincible as a young man in his 20s and 30s thinks he always is, as unwilling to pay for services used by other people as a young man always is, blaming my fathers generation for the worlds ills as every young man does.
I've grown up since then.
But nevertheless the truth remains, I voted for her and I did ok and my young family benefited too'"
As it's chest-baring time ...
I did OK in the 1980's too, also self-employed, not because of or despite Thatcher but because I was in the right skill at the right time.
I never voted for her but my vote for the centre-left SDP in 1983 had the same effect, i.e. it was part of the split in the left-of-centre vote and it let the right-right in.
An unforeseen consequence for which I have carried a degree of guilt ever since for letting them in.
Another unforeseen consequence, but this time beneficial, was that I believe it led to Kinnock's clean-up of Labour, kicking out the Degsy Tendency and the other so-called socialists who were actually anything but, thereby re-aligning Labour in the centre-left ground in my view.
Blair then went further and occupied the wet-right ground as well, a step I found unpalateable but which I tolerated because who else could I vote for?
My background is working class but outward appearances would suggest middle class ... either way, my views on fairness, humanity, common decency and what government is for remain unchanged.
Hence, I despised Thatcher and my lip curls when I think of Cameron.
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX " ... I wonder what the Climate Change brigade would make out of your insistance to keep the mines open?'"
It might point out that it is possible to use technology to burn coal in a rather cleaner way than we did historically. And of course, you don't have the 'left overs' of that wonderfully clean form of power, nuclear.
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"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" [i:2886spie]Elbert Hubbard[/i:2886spie]
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| Quote: Rock God X "Go Glenda!'"
See – you need a luvvie to do it right!
Brilliant speech. And credit too to Bercow for slapping down the prat that is Baldry. He wanted to be recalled to Parliament, at the taxpayers' expense, for an exercise in nothing other than praise?
FFS – the taxpayer shouldn't be funding masturbation by MPs.
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"Dare to know!" [i:2886spie]Immanuel Kant[/i:2886spie]
"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" [i:2886spie]Elbert Hubbard[/i:2886spie]
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." [i:2886spie]Oscar Wilde[/i:2886spie]
[url=http://thevoluptuousmanifesto.blogspot.co.uk:2886spie][color=#4000FF:2886spie]The Voluptuous Manifesto[/color:2886spie][/url:2886spie] – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1977.jpg |
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| Quote: El Barbudo "As it's chest-baring time ... '"
Oh god – is it confession time?
rlMy thoughtsrl: polemic but not a rant. Family friendly. Which is more than could be said for the lady herself.
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| Quote: Mintball "See – you need a luvvie to do it right!
Brilliant speech. And credit too to Bercow for slapping down the prat that is Baldry. He wanted to be recalled to Parliament, at the taxpayers' expense, for an exercise in nothing other than praise?
FFS – the taxpayer shouldn't be funding masturbation by MPs.'"
That said, Bercow should have stepped in to stop the heckling from the Tory benches.
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