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Quote: Kosh "You don't 'stick 2 fingers up at the establishment' by voting for a bunch of racist, mysoginistic chancers. Anyone who voted UKIP is either a racist or a moron. No exceptions.

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Mostly the former unfortunately. People like to make out we are some wonderfully diverse nation where everyone accepts each other. But when push comes to shove Britain as a country is inherently racist.

A common phrase you hear when discussing these things is "I'm not racist, I just think we should be helping out own before sending money abroad." Well I'm sorry, but if two people need aid and you choose to give it to the British guy purely because he is British, then that is the definition of racism. Maybe I'm naive, but as far as I'm concerned we all live on the same planet, and if someone wants to come here to make a better life for themselves and to try to contribute to society I couldn't give two f**ks where they are from.

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Quote: Dally "As I've written on here for years that sort of idiocy is what drives backlashes and extremism. UKIP's popularity is one of the first manifestations of that. Telling people what to think, calling them -ists when you disagree with them is evil and stupid. Guess what normally happens to evil and stupid people - the majority rises and crushes them when they are sick of them.'"


Most bigots don't like being called bigots, this doesn't stop them being bigots however.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Mostly the former unfortunately. People like to make out we are some wonderfully diverse nation where everyone accepts each other. But when push comes to shove Britain as a country is inherently racist.

A common phrase you hear when discussing these things is "I'm not racist, I just think we should be helping out own before sending money abroad." Well I'm sorry, but if two people need aid and you choose to give it to the British guy purely because he is British, then that is the definition of racism. Maybe I'm naive, but as far as I'm concerned we all live on the same planet, and if someone wants to come here to make a better life for themselves and to try to contribute to society I couldn't give two f**ks where they are from.'"


I agree with the last bit, anyone who wants to come and make a better life and contribute is more than welcome by me also. However, wanting the government to cut it's aid budget to increase spending in the UK is not racist... in the slightest.

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Quote: TrinityIHC "I agree with the last bit, anyone who wants to come and make a better life and contribute is more than welcome by me '"


Unfortunately they wouldn't be welcomed by UPRIK or many tories. They'd be turned away at the border before they could be given a chance to show what they are capable of.

A very dear friend of mine arrived here 7 years ago to pick strawberries, her first week's wages, after accommodation costs and agency fees were deducted was £19 for a 60 hour week. She thought she'd come for a few months and then return home with a load of money in the bank. After the strawberry picking ended, she took various jobs in warehousing etc but somewhere along the line, it was discovered she had an aptitude for writing code.

She is now a recognised expert in Java, working for an IT solutions company in Berkshire and should graduate from the OU next year with a BSc in IT. She now considers the UK to be "home" and has no intention of ever leaving.

That talent would have been lost, had UPRIK been in charge of our borders.

Mind you, there's still something to get the narrow-minded frothing at the mouth. She will shortly be embarking on transition from male to female, all funded by the NHS.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Mostly the former unfortunately. People like to make out we are some wonderfully diverse nation where everyone accepts each other. But when push comes to shove Britain as a country is inherently racist.

A common phrase you hear when discussing these things is "I'm not racist, I just think we should be helping out own before sending money abroad." Well I'm sorry, but if two people need aid and you choose to give it to the British guy purely because he is British, then that is the definition of racism. Maybe I'm naive, but as far as I'm concerned we all live on the same planet, and if someone wants to come here to make a better life for themselves and to try to contribute to society I couldn't give two f**ks where they are from.'"


All peoples in your terms are "inherently racist." Just in Britain - look at certain Muslim "communities" systemstic rape and abuse of white girls (did they "care" for them?); the Chinese community call us "white devils" and say we all stink (among themselves); white people among themselves make derogatory comments about immigrants / non-white people regularly when they assume others in a group will not jump down their throats. The whole "racism" industry / thought police is / are required to try to counteract this. There will always be a constant strain and at different times in our country's future one or other will be in the ascendancy to differing degrees.

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Quote: cod'ead "Unfortunately they wouldn't be welcomed by UPRIK or many tories. They'd be turned away at the border before they could be given a chance to show what they are capable of.

A very dear friend of mine arrived here 7 years ago to pick strawberries, her first week's wages, after accommodation costs and agency fees were deducted was £19 for a 60 hour week. She thought she'd come for a few months and then return home with a load of money in the bank. After the strawberry picking ended, she took various jobs in warehousing etc but somewhere along the line, it was discovered she had an aptitude for writing code.

She is now a recognised expert in Java, working for an IT solutions company in Berkshire and should graduate from the OU next year with a BSc in IT. She now considers the UK to be "home" and has no intention of ever leaving.

That talent would have been lost, had UPRIK been in charge of our borders.'"


But surely that decision would have been for the Brussels gravy train bureaucrats anyway (if UKIP propaganda is to be believed)? We've lost control of our borders!!!!!

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Quote: TrinityIHC "Of course I have read their manifesto,'"


You cast your vote after reading rlTHISrl?

12 pages, 5 of them taken up with anything but policy.

That is not a manifesto, Lidl push more (valuable) information through my door each week.

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I voted for my local councillor because I know him, he does a good job in my area. I couldn't care less which party his sponsorship and funding comes from. I'd have preferred it if the ballot paper just had a list of names.

Anyone who can't be bothered to find out the names of the local candidates and what they stand for but rather base their choice on a national party and their manifesto shouldn't be voting.

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Quote: West Leeds Rhino "I voted for my local councillor because I know him, he does a good job in my area. I couldn't care less which party his sponsorship and funding comes from. I'd have preferred it if the ballot paper just had a list of names.

Anyone who can't be bothered to find out the names of the local candidates and what they stand for but rather base their choice on a national party and their manifesto shouldn't be voting.'"


So to be clear, he'd get your vote even if he defected to the BNP, EDL or the I Want to Drop a Blancmange Down Terry Wogan's Y-Fronts Party?

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Quote: TrinityIHC "My options at the ballot were...

Labour - No
Tories - Hell No
Greens - What's the point
English Democrats - No
Britain First - Hell No

and Ukip, so I voted for them based on process of elimination.

What a horrible racist I must be!'"


What do you mean what is the point of voting for the Greens?

This election was done under PR you know so if you preferred their policies to those of UKIP there was every point voting for them and thus not voting UKIP.

I don't understand the process of elimination idea either. Just because you don't want to vote Labour or Tory or whatever you aren't compelled to vote for whoever you consider the "least worst" with that being UKIP.

If you had dismissed all the others why on looking at UKIP's policies didn't you eliminate them as well?

Or in reality do you actually agree with something they claim as policy so made a conscious choice rather than just defaulting to UKIP because the others are rubbish in your view?

Mind you whichever it is, neither is an excuse for casting a vote for that bunch of fascists.

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Quote: DaveO "

Mind you whichever it is, neither is an excuse for casting a vote for that bunch of fascists.'"


Is there an excuse for voting, say, Communist?

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Quote: cod'ead "You cast your vote after reading rlTHISrl?

12 pages, 5 of them taken up with anything but policy.

That is not a manifesto, Lidl push more (valuable) information through my door each week.'"


What a bag of crap all that was. Still it was nice to see Nick ( Bog eyed lunatic ) Griffin lose his seat.

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Quote: DaveO "What do you mean what is the point of voting for the Greens?

This election was done under PR you know so if you preferred their policies to those of UKIP there was every point voting for them and thus not voting UKIP.

I don't understand the process of elimination idea either. Just because you don't want to vote Labour or Tory or whatever you aren't compelled to vote for whoever you consider the "least worst" with that being UKIP.

If you had dismissed all the others why on looking at UKIP's policies didn't you eliminate them as well?

Or in reality do you actually agree with something they claim as policy so made a conscious choice rather than just defaulting to UKIP because the others are rubbish in your view?

Mind you whichever it is, neither is an excuse for casting a vote for that bunch of fascists.'"


To be honest the Greens haven't got much presence round here and will be perennial number 4 for the conceivable future imo, so cant really see much point in voting for them.

It really came down to a simple process of elimination, like I say, I dont put much stock in pre-election promises from any party so the manifestos have little to do with it. If they come in and screw up then its only 4 years, if not - job's a goodun!

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Quote: Dally "Is there an excuse for voting, say, Communist?'"


Better that than just not bothering...

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "So to be clear, he'd get your vote even if he defected to the BNP, EDL or the I Want to Drop a Blancmange Down Terry Wogan's Y-Fronts Party?'"

Apart from the fact that I know him and know he wouldn't defect or support said parties policies. That sort of proves my point. If you voted for someone you didn't know, that could happen.

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 Thu 10th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R6
20:00
Salford
v
Leeds
 Fri 11th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R6
20:00
Hull KR
v
Wigan
20:00
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 Sat 12th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R6
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v
Hull FC
20:00
Castleford
v
Leigh
 Sun 13th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R6
15:00
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v
Catalans
 Thu 17th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R7
20:00
Wakefield
v
Castleford
 Fri 18th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R7
20:00
Hull FC
v
Hull KR
20:00
Wigan
v
St.Helens
20:00
Leeds
v
Huddersfield
 Sat 19th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R7
20:00
Leigh
v
Warrington
20:00
Catalans
v
Salford
 Thu 24th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
20:00
Warrington
v
St.Helens
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull KR
 Fri 25th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
20:00
Salford
v
Leigh
 Sat 26th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
17:30
Catalans
v
Wakefield
 Sun 27th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
15:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 3rd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
15:00
Leigh
v
Catalans
17:15
Hull KR
v
Salford
19:30
St.Helens
v
Leeds
 Sun 4th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
13:00
Huddersfield
v
Hull FC
15:15
Wigan
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Wakefield
 Thu 15th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
20:00
St.Helens
v
Catalans
 Fri 16th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Sat 17th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:00
Hull KR
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 18th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:00
Wakefield
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Salford
 Thu 22nd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull FC
 Fri 23rd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
Hull KR
 Sat 24th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
14:30
Castleford
v
Leeds
17:30
Catalans
v
Wigan
 Sun 25th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
Wakefield
v
Salford
 Thu 29th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Leigh
 Fri 30th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Hull KR
v
St.Helens
20:00
Salford
v
Wigan
 Sat 31st May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
14:30
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sun 1st Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
15:00
Warrington
v
Castleford
 Fri 13th Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
20:00
Hull FC
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull KR
v
Catalans
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Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
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