no, Cameron criticised Carr to try and gain some popular support.

In general people criticise those better off than them because of jealousy, or some other self interest, like bemoaning their kids having to pay for their education.

Agreed.
As I said earlier in the thread, another bandwagon passing, he jumps on board.
He thinks we're all thick.


Envy is the word you are seeking here, I think, not jealousy.
As Dally will no doubt confirm, envy is the sin, jealousy isn't.

Either way you are talking generalised bollox.
My attitudes to taxation are not based on envy, I see people worse off than me paying more tax than those better-off then me and that is plain wrong, absolutely feck-all to do with envy (or what you call jealousy).
You are not alone, there are others who frequent this board who can't grasp that fair-mindedness is not the same as envy, who can't understand any motive other than self interest.
Your view says more about the way you think than it does about those you criticise.

Well done - you've managed to accept that at least [ione[/i individual can have a range of reasons to criticise well-off folk.


A totally rubbish generalisation. Par for the course for you on this subject, mind. Not everyone on the planet is motivated by greed and self-interest only, as you appear to be.

These sweeping generalisations are fun, aren't they?

I can tell you one thing Kosh, you're a lefty who wants everyone else to pay for you and yours to do as you please

Moreover, you take what little self esteem you have from having a green username, as has been evidenced ad nauseum on the FC board over the years.

get over it, some people are way more important, qualified and intelligent than you or I will ever be.

What a load of sanctimonious, condescending twaddle

Even whilst taking the discussion towards a different topic, you are still generalising.
But hey-ho, let's do it that way ... do you really believe that poor people paying more tax than rich people is fair?

No, I don't, but it's legal, and Labour did nothing about it.

nor do I agree with a lot of other things this government is HAVING to do because of the storm Blurgh and Brownose left behind, but it is necessary.

Oh dear. Is that really the best you can come up with? It does reveal your core values though - feck everyone else as long as I'm OK.

They've gone way beyond what's necessary.

Wow. That surpasses even the best of your bollox.

I didn't realise Standee paid for Kosh's kids. That's very generous of him.

I'm not quite sure why you feel any of this is relevant, but anyway...

I pay for my kids. I also pay for other people's kids. I [ialso[/i pay for lots of things I don't use, most of which are available to folk with or without kids. Unlike you I don't begrudge this, despite being in an income bracket where I receive feck-all from the state without being well-off enough to have cash to burn.

What I believe in is a society that works together for the benefit of all. Having an educated population is a key part of making a modern society function so it follows that I feel that education should be free. I'd feel the same regardless of whether I had kids or not or what level of education they might attain. I'd also point out that recent research shows that the state receives significantly more cash from graduates over their working lifetime than it costs to educate them, so it's a net gain for everyone.

To get back on topic, maybe if all the rich wasters and corporations who currently avoid taxation at every available (legal) opportunity actually paid their fair share we'd be able to afford a 1st class free education system.